Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Dear Sree Vaishnava Perunthagaiyeer Adiyen has been advised our acharya swami (Mudhaliyandan Swamigal) that Adiyen shall say "adiyen Raamanuja Dasan" whenever we happen to do namaskarams (sevikkumpothu). Adiyen noticed one of the group female member writes as "Ramanuja DAsee" which one is correct? Ramanuja Dasan is common to both gender or Ramanuja DAsee for female? Adiyen shall continue to write as Ramanuja Dasan till suitable clarification is received. thanks and regards Adiyen ramanuja dasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA Dasan is the masculine gender of Dasi. dasan On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 chitra_vidya wrote : > > > >Dear Sree Vaishnava Perunthagaiyeer > > Adiyen has been advised our acharya swami (Mudhaliyandan Swamigal) >that Adiyen shall say "adiyen Raamanuja Dasan" whenever we happen to >do namaskarams (sevikkumpothu). Adiyen noticed one of the group >female member writes as "Ramanuja DAsee" which one is correct? >Ramanuja Dasan is common to both gender or Ramanuja DAsee for female? >Adiyen shall continue to write as Ramanuja Dasan till suitable >clarification is received. > >thanks and regards >Adiyen ramanuja dasan > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Dear Bhagavathas, Unfortunately the word 'Dasi' has other connotations. In order to avoid confusion it is better to use the word 'Sevika' or 'Shishyaa'. Sajjana Padapadma parama renuhu Lakshmi Narasimha dasan Vasan Sriranga Chari <vasan_chari_hk wrote: SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA Dasan is the masculine gender of Dasi. dasan On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 chitra_vidya wrote : > > > >Dear Sree Vaishnava Perunthagaiyeer > > Adiyen has been advised our acharya swami (Mudhaliyandan Swamigal) >that Adiyen shall say "adiyen Raamanuja Dasan" whenever we happen to >do namaskarams (sevikkumpothu). Adiyen noticed one of the group >female member writes as "Ramanuja DAsee" which one is correct? >Ramanuja Dasan is common to both gender or Ramanuja DAsee for female? >Adiyen shall continue to write as Ramanuja Dasan till suitable >clarification is received. > >thanks and regards >Adiyen ramanuja dasan > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Sponsor document.write(''); / Dr. C.S.L.Narasimhan Research Manager (Hydroprocessing) Indian Oil Corporation Ltd Research and Development Centre Sector-13, Faridabad, 121006 work: 0091-129-2285611 ext 582 res: 0091-129-2210262 GSM: 9810885798 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA Dasi is more appropriate than sevaka & shishya. dasan On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 narsimhan csl wrote : >Dear Bhagavathas, >Unfortunately the word 'Dasi' has other connotations. In order to avoid confusion it is better to use the word 'Sevika' or 'Shishyaa'. >Sajjana Padapadma parama renuhu >Lakshmi Narasimha dasan > >Vasan Sriranga Chari <vasan_chari_hk wrote: > > SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA >Dasan is the masculine gender of Dasi. >dasan > > >On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 chitra_vidya wrote : > > > > > > > >Dear Sree Vaishnava Perunthagaiyeer > > > > Adiyen has been advised our acharya swami (Mudhaliyandan Swamigal) > >that Adiyen shall say "adiyen Raamanuja Dasan" whenever we happen to > >do namaskarams (sevikkumpothu). Adiyen noticed one of the group > >female member writes as "Ramanuja DAsee" which one is correct? > >Ramanuja Dasan is common to both gender or Ramanuja DAsee for female? > >Adiyen shall continue to write as Ramanuja Dasan till suitable > >clarification is received. > > > >thanks and regards > >Adiyen ramanuja dasan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor >document.write(''); > > > Links > > >/ > > > > > > > > >Dr. C.S.L.Narasimhan >Research Manager (Hydroprocessing) >Indian Oil Corporation Ltd >Research and Development Centre >Sector-13, Faridabad, 121006 > >work: 0091-129-2285611 ext 582 >res: 0091-129-2210262 >GSM: 9810885798 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 dAsi is not appropriate. One may use dAsyai. K. P. Sarathy , "Vasan Sriranga Chari" <vasan_chari_hk@r...> wrote: > > SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA > Dasi is more appropriate than sevaka & shishya. > dasan > > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 narsimhan csl wrote : > >Dear Bhagavathas, > >Unfortunately the word 'Dasi' has other connotations. In order to avoid confusion it is better to use the word 'Sevika' or 'Shishyaa'. > >Sajjana Padapadma parama renuhu > >Lakshmi Narasimha dasan > > > >Vasan Sriranga Chari <vasan_chari_hk@r...> wrote: > > > > SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA > >Dasan is the masculine gender of Dasi. > >dasan > > > > > >On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 chitra_vidya wrote : > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sree Vaishnava Perunthagaiyeer > > > > > > Adiyen has been advised our acharya swami (Mudhaliyandan Swamigal) > > >that Adiyen shall say "adiyen Raamanuja Dasan" whenever we happen to > > >do namaskarams (sevikkumpothu). Adiyen noticed one of the group > > >female member writes as "Ramanuja DAsee" which one is correct? > > >Ramanuja Dasan is common to both gender or Ramanuja DAsee for female? > > >Adiyen shall continue to write as Ramanuja Dasan till suitable > > >clarification is received. > > > > > >thanks and regards > > >Adiyen ramanuja dasan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > >document.write(''); > > > > > > Links > > > > > >/ > > > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > >Dr. C.S.L.Narasimhan > >Research Manager (Hydroprocessing) > >Indian Oil Corporation Ltd > >Research and Development Centre > >Sector-13, Faridabad, 121006 > > > >work: 0091-129-2285611 ext 582 > >res: 0091-129-2210262 > >GSM: 9810885798 > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Dear swAmin(i)s, Maybe we can use dAsin for female as parallel to dAsan for male. dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Srimathe Lakshminarasimha Para Brahmane Namaha ! Dear Bhagavathas, It is quite interesting to note the various thoughts emanating on the subject . In my humble opinion , when one has reached a stage of calling himself / herself , as a devotee of some one instead of other normal worldly identity , then gender should not bother. We are all supposed to be the female partners of Sriman Narayanan , since He is the only Purushothaman. As such the term " dasan" should be applicable well for both males and females alike. In my opinion , " Dasan" is used to indicate submissive attitude of a person , whether male or female. So one should be proud to call oneself " Dasan" , without attaching any gender to it. Trust every one will agree. Adiyen, Ramanuja dasan- G.Sampath. tatachar wrote: Dear swAmin(i)s, Maybe we can use dAsin for female as parallel to dAsan for male. dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Om Namo Narayanaya, Dasa is Male, Dasi is female in Snskrit language. So using Dasa for male and Dasi for female is fine from my opinion. Sriman Narayana Dasa Sampige Srinivasa Iyengar Bengalooru >Sampath G <sampath_govindachari >tatachar, narsimhan csl <cslnarsimhan, Vasan >Sriranga Chari <vasan_chari_hk, chitra_vidya ><chitra_vidya >CC: >Re: clarificatino on Ramanuja Dasan - Dasee >Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:59:31 +0000 (GMT) > > >Srimathe Lakshminarasimha Para Brahmane Namaha ! > >Dear Bhagavathas, > >It is quite interesting to note the various thoughts emanating on the >subject . In my humble opinion , when one has reached a stage of calling >himself / herself , as a devotee of some one instead of other normal >worldly identity , then gender should not bother. We are all supposed to be >the female partners of Sriman Narayanan , since He is the only >Purushothaman. As such the term " dasan" should be applicable well for both >males and females alike. In my opinion , " Dasan" is used to indicate >submissive attitude of a person , whether male or female. So one should be >proud to call oneself " Dasan" , without attaching any gender to it. Trust >every one will agree. > >Adiyen, Ramanuja dasan- G.Sampath. > >tatachar wrote: > > >Dear swAmin(i)s, > >Maybe we can use dAsin for female as parallel to dAsan for male. > >dAsan > >K.S. tAtAchAr > Links > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Dear Bhagavatas: This discussion has been going on for too long. The best solution is to consult our Acharyas. It is beeter to avoid speculations and personal opinions. This will be the last posting on the subject, unless someone comes up with anauthoritative instruction from our Acharyas. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Moderator =============================================================================== Dear Swamin(i)s, In our culture, we have many male devotees with dasa suffix Kabir Das Tulasi Das Sur Das Purandara Dasaru Kanaka Dasaru Dasan of adiyen-Dasan (Popular among Srivaishnavas) and rarely such a suffix for female devotees (Meera Bai, Akka Mahadevi, Avvayar etc) Thus we are inventing the norms here. We have a great opportunity to do it in the most appropriate way. Given that opportunity, why create confusion by using Dasan for women? There is one Naidu Amma, a man with female name. That is confusing enough. Some suggestions are: Dasin Sevaki Dasi (Ramanuja Dasi) Dasimati Dasimani Dasamma Dasakka Dasyarati Dasya Ranjani Dasan K.S.Tatachar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 In Srimad Bhagvatam,gopikas call themselves ASHULKA DASIKAS ,in Gopika geetam. DASAN On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 KP.Sarathy wrote : > > > > dAsi is not appropriate. One may use dAsyai. >K. P. Sarathy >, "Vasan Sriranga Chari" ><vasan_chari_hk@r...> wrote: > > > > SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA > > Dasi is more appropriate than sevaka & shishya. > > dasan > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 narsimhan csl wrote : > > >Dear Bhagavathas, > > >Unfortunately the word 'Dasi' has other connotations. In order to >avoid confusion it is better to use the word 'Sevika' or 'Shishyaa'. > > >Sajjana Padapadma parama renuhu > > >Lakshmi Narasimha dasan > > > > > >Vasan Sriranga Chari <vasan_chari_hk@r...> wrote: > > > > > > SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA > > >Dasan is the masculine gender of Dasi. > > >dasan > > > > > > > > >On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 chitra_vidya wrote : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sree Vaishnava Perunthagaiyeer > > > > > > > > Adiyen has been advised our acharya swami (Mudhaliyandan >Swamigal) > > > >that Adiyen shall say "adiyen Raamanuja Dasan" whenever we >happen to > > > >do namaskarams (sevikkumpothu). Adiyen noticed one of the group > > > >female member writes as "Ramanuja DAsee" which one is correct? > > > >Ramanuja Dasan is common to both gender or Ramanuja DAsee for >female? > > > >Adiyen shall continue to write as Ramanuja Dasan till suitable > > > >clarification is received. > > > > > > > >thanks and regards > > > >Adiyen ramanuja dasan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > >document.write(''); > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > >/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of >Service. > > > > > > > > > > > >Dr. C.S.L.Narasimhan > > >Research Manager (Hydroprocessing) > > >Indian Oil Corporation Ltd > > >Research and Development Centre > > >Sector-13, Faridabad, 121006 > > > > > >work: 0091-129-2285611 ext 582 > > >res: 0091-129-2210262 > > >GSM: 9810885798 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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