Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Respected Bhagawathas, My understanding is that charanagathi yields the fruits asked for in the sankalpam .Time and again it has been emphasised that one should not define ones rerquirement while approaching the Lord.HE KNOWS BEST AND WILL BLESS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.DROPUPADI ASKED FOR PROTECTION OF HER MODESTY and got it.An important fact is that the Lord protected her from dwaraka itself unlike as in ganjendra moksham.Ofcourse the angas of prapatti are present in the call by Droupadi. We may also remember that Arjuna was given the viratrupa darsan,Dridarshtra the divine darsan.and so did Bishma in the war and Devaki at the time of birth of Krishna but all of them did not get moksham immediately or freed from human sufferings. Prahlada was reborn as vibishana and again as Akrura inspite of the Lord appearing as Narasimha.-a typical case when prarabda karma is not totally erased by The Lord so that His Leela can be comprehended and appropriate lessons learnt. dasan narayanan Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 SRI : Dear Bhgavathas, PraNAms to all. Like a child that is suddenly ushered into a sweet stall, not knowing what it should ask for bewildered by the different varietyies and colours of the sweets, we the mortals who R blessed with this birth as human beings do not really know what to aspire for in this valuable JANMA, being drawn and torn to pieces by the all powerful GUNAS and IndriyAs. Our Acharyas, after in depth understanding of the MAYA's influence on us, have given us the ONLY possible path for Salvation in this Kali Yuga - SaraNAgathi. The Lord has also assured that if we cling to His Feet as the ONLY source of sure way to cross the ocean of SamsAra, He will, without doubt, Bless us with MOKSHA. But, when this MOKSHA will be accorded is not told by Him, as it is inevitable for us to exhaust what we are destined to undergo, before we cross the ocean of SamsAra. While the Lord took the whole of Gita to explain to Arjuna , in fact to all Jeevatmas. Great Saints , AlwArs and AcharyAs have taught us in a nutshell - Unqualified Surrender to The Lord is the ONLY way for MOKSHA. The Great Tamil Poet-Saint , THIRUVALLUVAR, has contained in the essence of Gita in his THIRUKKURAL and that too in the very first ten verses, that unless we cling to The Feet of The One who has no likes and dislikes, The Lord , one cannot cross the ocean of SamsArA. The Lord, perhaps felt embarrased to ask human beings to Surrender to Him alone and so had to give a large preamble upto 17 chapters in Gita to declare finally in the 18th Chapter that SaraNAgathi is the only way left for mortals to escape from the cycle of birth and death. Where as His devotees felt free to declare to the entire Humanity that SaranAgathi is the ONLY way to cross the Ocean of SamsAra without any hesitation. Let our Great Saints, AcharyAs and Bhagavathothams Bless us to follow The Path of SaraNAgathi and get rid of the cycle of Jananam & Maranam as is extolled in many works by them. Adi Sankara's,Bhaja Govindam also points out at the same path, thus adopting the same solution as worked out by Our EmberumAnAr, Sri Ramanuja and his followers. Sarvam Sri KrishnArpanamasthu. Adiyen Sri Ramanuja Dasan, Kombur Vankipuram Madhavan. Rajagopalan Narayan <rajagopalannarayan wrote: Respected Bhagawathas, My understanding is that charanagathi yields the fruits asked for in the sankalpam .Time and again it has been emphasised that one should not define ones rerquirement while approaching the Lord.HE KNOWS BEST AND WILL BLESS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.DROPUPADI ASKED FOR PROTECTION OF HER MODESTY and got it.An important fact is that the Lord protected her from dwaraka itself unlike as in ganjendra moksham.Ofcourse the angas of prapatti are present in the call by Droupadi. We may also remember that Arjuna was given the viratrupa darsan,Dridarshtra the divine darsan.and so did Bishma in the war and Devaki at the time of birth of Krishna but all of them did not get moksham immediately or freed from human sufferings. Prahlada was reborn as vibishana and again as Akrura inspite of the Lord appearing as Narasimha.-a typical case when prarabda karma is not totally erased by The Lord so that His Leela can be comprehended and appropriate lessons learnt. dasan narayanan Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ / WE PRAY THE LORD TO BLESS ALL TO LOVE AND HELP ALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Dear Swamin(i)s, >>Prahlada was reborn as vibishana and again as Akrura inspite of the Lord appearing as Narasimha.-a typical case when prarabda karma is not totally erased by The Lord<< As per the Bhagavadgita, three main paths (Karma, jn~Ana, and bhakti) requiring efforts and one effortless path (sharaNAgati) are indicated for liberation. All these paths, with the exception of shraNAgati, may not be able to be accomplished in one life. That is why, our achAryas advice everyone (who are relatively more advanced as well as the lowest strata person and gravest sinners)to perform sharanAgati, as it is the surest way. However,if one does not do SharaNAgati and prefer other paths, there is no loss in the effort. Even a little goes a long away, though not all the way (swalpam apyasya dharmasya trAyatE mahatO bhayAt). There is still another issue stated by the Lord in Gita, namely, time of departure. Among the realized (Brahmavids), those departing during UttarayaNa six months are not born again (some people wrongly confuse that those who depart in uttarAyaNa are libertaed.Obviously, this is their wishful thinking!) The Brahmavids(knower of Brahman) departing during dakshinAyana months are born again. This may seem like the Lord is discriminating between the Brahmavids, based on when they depart. However, this is the way Lord assures that there will be Brahmavids amongst us all the time to guide the rest. Prahlada appearing as VibhiSHaNa may be one such example of recycling Brahmavids. This also explains, how there are realized souls (example Kabir das, Ramakrishna Paramahans) who had in- born wisdom (ashixita paTus). dAsan K.S. tAtAchAr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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