Vedadhyayanam

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Swamins,

It is understood that Veda has to be learnt with 6 angas

namely Chands, Niruktham, Kalpam, Vyakarnam, Tharkam and Jyothisham

In this Tharkam, Vyakarnam,Jyothisham and Chandas is known to many.

But what is Kalpam and Niruktham. Where does Mimass fit in this

category. And are these 6 angas is common for all the four Vedas.

Incidentaly I am a Bharadaji and Sama Vedin- I would be glad if

any one u learned scholers enlighten a person like me-

Dasan

V.S.Rajagopalan

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> Swamins,

> It is understood that Veda has to be learnt with 6 angas

> namely Chands, Niruktham, Kalpam, Vyakarnam, Tharkam and Jyothisham

> In this Tharkam, Vyakarnam,Jyothisham and Chandas is known to many.

> But what is Kalpam and Niruktham. Where does Mimass fit in this

> category. And are these 6 angas is common for all the four Vedas.

> Incidentaly I am a Bharadaji and Sama Vedin- I would be glad if

> any one u learned scholers enlighten a person like me-

> Dasan

> V.S.Rajagopalan

 

Dear Sri Rajagopalan :

 

I am very happy to know about your interests in learning about the VedAs .

 

Here is a brief introduction . You will find details in

 

http://www.sadagopan.org

 

Please go to the section on Vedas . There are number of articles about

the VedAs there . You can refer to article 9 on general overview

and article 2 on Kalpa SutrAs .

 

Now coming back to your question , There are four VedAs . Each ghave

three sections : Mantra/Samhita , BrahmaNaas and Upanishads .This

constitutes

the body of the VedAs . Like the human body has limbs (angAs) , the Veda

Purushan

has limbs or angams . In your list , you had included Tarkam as an angam .

It is not

one of the angams .

 

The VedAs have the following six angams or limbs :

 

(1) Siksha : Science of Pronunciation and Phonetics; Proper

articulation of the Vedic phenomes .

 

(2) Chandas: Science of Poetic Meter ( Gayathri , UshNik , anushtup et al )

 

(3) VyAkaraNa : Science of Grammar ( PaaNini's AshtAdhyAyi)

 

(4) Nirukta: Etymology and Lexicology ( Created by Yaksha)

 

(5) JyOtisha : Science of astronomy & astrology

This is considered as the eye of the Vedas since it

permits one to see across murky time.

 

(6) Kalpa : Science of Rituals and observations on Vidhi.

This angam is considered as the hands of the Vedam .

 

Siksha & Chandas deal with how to recite (speak) Veda .

Nirukta & VyAkaraNa deal with the understanding of the meaning of the VedAs

..

Kalpa and JyOthishA deal with how to use the VedAs .

 

There are 4 Upaangams for the 6 angams of the Four VedAs .

 

The UpAngams are : (1)( Tarkam )or Nyaaya (2) MeemAmsa (3) Dharma Soothrams

and (4) PurANams .

 

Saanga-UpAnga ahdyayanam of the VedAs are recommended .

 

This then is a quick introduction .VedAs are ocean like in sweep

and are delightful to delve into .

 

V.Sadagopan

[Guest guest]

Dear Sriman Sadagopan,

 

Thanks for great summary on angas and upangas of the Vedas.

 

>>Each havethree sections : Mantra/Samhita , BrahmaNaas and Upanishads<<

 

I thought there were four sections: Samhita, Brahmana, Aranyaka and Upanishad.

(For example, Purusha Suktam of Krishna Yajurvedam is in the Aranyaka part).

Some Upanishads (like MahanArayaNopanishad, and Taittiriya upanishad/Krishna

YV) are found in the Aranyaka portion of KYV.

However, Kathopanishad is not included there.

 

 

Some people call the first three (without the Upanishad) as the Trai vidyA.

Although some others refer to the three Vedas (Rk, Yajur and Sama) as the trai

vidyA.

 

 

My feeling is in the "Trai vidyA mAm sOmapAh pUtapApAh..."

of the Gita, the Lord is referring to Samhita, Brahmana and Aranyaka.

These alone will not lead to Moksha.

 

dAsan

 

K.S. tAtAchAr

where the Lord says that the followers of Trai vidyA will

 

Sadagopan <sgopan

vsrajagopalan2003 <vsrajagopalan2003

Cc: SRS <Srirangasri>

Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:24:10 -0400

Re: Vedadhyayanam

 

 

 

 

> Swamins,

> It is understood that Veda has to be learnt with 6 angas

> namely Chands, Niruktham, Kalpam, Vyakarnam, Tharkam and Jyothisham

> In this Tharkam, Vyakarnam,Jyothisham and Chandas is known to many.

> But what is Kalpam and Niruktham. Where does Mimass fit in this

> category. And are these 6 angas is common for all the four Vedas.

> Incidentaly I am a Bharadaji and Sama Vedin- I would be glad if

> any one u learned scholers enlighten a person like me-

> Dasan

> V.S.Rajagopalan

 

Dear Sri Rajagopalan :

 

I am very happy to know about your interests in learning about the VedAs .

 

Here is a brief introduction . You will find details in

 

http://www.sadagopan.org

 

Please go to the section on Vedas . There are number of articles about

the VedAs there . You can refer to article 9 on general overview

and article 2 on Kalpa SutrAs .

 

Now coming back to your question , There are four VedAs . Each ghave

three sections : Mantra/Samhita , BrahmaNaas and Upanishads .This

constitutes

the body of the VedAs . Like the human body has limbs (angAs) , the Veda

Purushan

has limbs or angams . In your list , you had included Tarkam as an angam .

It is not

one of the angams .

 

The VedAs have the following six angams or limbs :

 

(1) Siksha : Science of Pronunciation and Phonetics; Proper

articulation of the Vedic phenomes .

 

(2) Chandas: Science of Poetic Meter ( Gayathri , UshNik , anushtup et al )

 

(3) VyAkaraNa : Science of Grammar ( PaaNini's AshtAdhyAyi)

 

(4) Nirukta: Etymology and Lexicology ( Created by Yaksha)

 

(5) JyOtisha : Science of astronomy & astrology

This is considered as the eye of the Vedas since it

permits one to see across murky time.

 

(6) Kalpa : Science of Rituals and observations on Vidhi.

This angam is considered as the hands of the Vedam .

 

Siksha & Chandas deal with how to recite (speak) Veda .

Nirukta & VyAkaraNa deal with the understanding of the meaning of the VedAs

..

Kalpa and JyOthishA deal with how to use the VedAs .

 

There are 4 Upaangams for the 6 angams of the Four VedAs .

 

The UpAngams are : (1)( Tarkam )or Nyaaya (2) MeemAmsa (3) Dharma Soothrams

and (4) PurANams .

 

Saanga-UpAnga ahdyayanam of the VedAs are recommended .

 

This then is a quick introduction .VedAs are ocean like in sweep

and are delightful to delve into .

 

V.Sadagopan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Rajagopalan :

 

Thanks very much for your note .

 

PaNini's ashtAdhyAyi is the condensaton of Vedic sage's insights on

Grammar and a build up on that infra structure to mkae sure that

the Vedic way of speech is preserved . PaaNIni lived around 4th Century B.C

in what is today modern day Pakistan on the bank of Indus . His great Text for

Grammar written in Brahmi script during the post-Vedic period has 3959 SoothrAs

(Aphorisms) . Adhi Sanakra in his Bhaja Govindham used to make fun of an old man

in VaraNAsi , who was learning AshtAdhyAyee ( na hi nahi rakshathi DukkunkaraNE

,

Bhaja Govindham instead ) . Panini in his master work refers to 10 grammarians

before him . His exactitude and rigor has not been seen its match in the

grammars of Greek -Latin ,

Hebrew and semantic languages . Today the formal language of Computers are

trying

to study AshtAdhyAyi ( Ref: ongoing CDAC work ) from a computational

linguistics

point of view (Does PaaNIni SoothrAs amenable for expalnation using a meta

Language etc )..

 

PaNini 's work deals with the phenomes , Morpheme and the root to derive the

rules

of Sanskrit Morphology . It is a limb of VedAs in that context .

 

Sage Patanjali , who wrote the MahA BhAshyam commented on the 8 chapters of

PaaNIni ( AshtAdhyAyee) around 200B.C and the VaartikAs of KaatyAyana dealing

with AshtAdhyAyee .

 

VyAkaraNa Saasthram is taught in MadhurAnthakam School of Ahobila Matam and

elesewhere today . For some , it may be a very dry subject .

 

Personally , the Bhakti approach and SaraNAgathi approach is more appealing to

me than

the esoteric but essential subjects like VyAkaraNam , For a well rounded person

ofcourse intersted

in studying great Sri Sookthis like Sri Bhaashyam of AchArya RaamAnuja , Tarkam

and VyAkaraNam

are a must .

 

Hanumaan's recognition as Nava VyAkaraNa PaNdithar is linked to his Mastery of

nine kinds of Grammar . The meaning of Nava representing a new kind of grammar

does not apply here .

 

In answer to your other question , JyOthishanm is another vast Vedic angam .

It will take years to master that limb of VedAs as well .

 

Best Wishes ,

V.Sadagopan