Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

Doubt.

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Dear all,

Pranams. I have a small query which I hope someone

can answer. I am pregnant with my first child and am

posed with the question of performing ceremonies in

the name of my child. I have been told that apart from

praying to the deities for the well being of the

mother and the child, seemantham is also an

opportunity to ask for a male child!! I do not wish to

perform this function if that is indeed true. Could

someone clarify for me if what I have understood is

correct. I do not wish to hurt my elders with my

decision if I am not right.

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dear sir,

Thank you for your prompt response. From your reply,

I perceive that my understanding of the samskara of

seemantham is more or less correct. I perfectly well

understand the fact that seemantham is ALSO done for

the welfare of the child and the mother which is what

we do in the poochootal functions as well.

With no offense being meant to anyone on this list or

elsewhere, I am of the opinion that if one indeed does

have immense attachment to the Almighty, there is

really no need to ask him for anything. My question

was raised in order to find out that even if I had to

go through a seemantham, would it be possible to

abstain from chanting/doing karyam that intentionally

asks for a male child.

I respect our traditions and have tried to adhere to

most of them with/without much ado. But at junctures

such as this one, I do not believe in citing the

sastras and our traditions and willfully following

them despite the intentions behind them. I do

understand the reasons behind doing do in ancient

times, but cannot see any reason to follow them per se

today.

I would much rather distribute food to the less

priviledged on that day in the name of my child.

If anyone can help me better understand the reason we

still follow several of our vaidhika karmas as we did

in the days of yore with no modifications whatsoever

to conform to todays ways of living, I will be

grateful.

Thanks for all of your wishes.

Pranams.

 

 

 

 

 

 

__

Start your day with - make it your home page

http://www./r/hs

Link to comment
Share on other sites

>> I am of the opinion that if one indeed does

have immense attachment to the Almighty, there is

really no need to ask him for anything. <<<

 

True..as per Gita, (ananya...yogakxemam vahAmyaham)

 

However, the realized and ever connected people

are encouraged to continue to perform the presecribed

duties -- with detachment

again a sper Gita (nabuddhi bedam janayet agnaanaamkarma sanghiNaam...

jOsHayet sarva karmANi vidvAn yuktah samaacharan)

 

>>>My question

was raised in order to find out that even if I had to

go through a seemantham, would it be possible to

abstain from chanting/doing karyam that intentionally

asks for a male child. <<

 

If you do want to perform the ritual, you do it as is.

For Srivaishnavas, all work is worship

(maam anusmara yuddhya cha), all karmas are to be

done with satvika tyaaga.

Thus, in effect there is no question of asking this or that,

even while chanting the mantras which say so.

 

When you fly you have to fasten seat belt, that is the law,

does not matter even if you are so FULL that you fill

the whole seat plus the space in between!

 

K.S. tAtAchAr

 

Asha deb <prathikasha

sgopan <sgopan;

Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:44:56 -0700 (PDT)

Re: Doubt.

 

 

Dear sir,

Thank you for your prompt response. From your reply,

I perceive that my understanding of the samskara of

seemantham is more or less correct. I perfectly well

understand the fact that seemantham is ALSO done for

the welfare of the child and the mother which is what

we do in the poochootal functions as well.

With no offense being meant to anyone on this list or

elsewhere, I am of the opinion that if one indeed does

have immense attachment to the Almighty, there is

really no need to ask him for anything. My question

was raised in order to find out that even if I had to

go through a seemantham, would it be possible to

abstain from chanting/doing karyam that intentionally

asks for a male child.

I respect our traditions and have tried to adhere to

most of them with/without much ado. But at junctures

such as this one, I do not believe in citing the

sastras and our traditions and willfully following

them despite the intentions behind them. I do

understand the reasons behind doing do in ancient

times, but cannot see any reason to follow them per se

today.

I would much rather distribute food to the less

priviledged on that day in the name of my child.

If anyone can help me better understand the reason we

still follow several of our vaidhika karmas as we did

in the days of yore with no modifications whatsoever

to conform to todays ways of living, I will be

grateful.

Thanks for all of your wishes.

Pranams.

 

 

 

 

 

 

__

Start your day with - make it your home page

http://www./r/hs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

This response is not made as one from a religious scholar, but to

congratulate the writer on her willingness to ask critical questions on

accepted norms and practices, and to add my few cents.

 

Even if we do not want to be critical of what our elders did (perhaps they

did what ever they did based on the socio-econic conditons that prevailed at

that time), we need to ask questions, seek proper answers, modify and change

course if necessary rather than accepting everything as dictated by

tradition, religion etc as fully correct. Otherwise, the religion and the

society based on that can become stale.

 

It appears we need to modify prayers and rituals that perpuate inequality

(like a male child is better! No, they are equal and at the same time

complimentary) etc. Youngters like this person can and should contributte

for the change without any fear and to move the society and country forward.

I trust her husband shares and to her views and thoughts (that is

the most important thing) and more importantly, she will hold on to such

progressive views as she gets older (most of the injustice to women

happening at homes and families seem to be perputuated by other women).

 

The thoughts

> I would much rather distribute food to the less

> priviledged on that day in the name of my child.

is also worth the attention. We spend good amount of our resources on

performing rituals whereas many folks cannot have them even for their

survival. Or we use them in such a way that only adds to the polution or

dirty the place of worship (Soora thengay or breaking cocunuts into pieces

etc.) and demean the less fortunate (like the poor kids running for those

cocunut pieces). Or the dress code: Silk is better and can be worn without

washing -- Would it not be better for the folks to go to a place of worship

with a clean jeans than smelling in a silk dhoti that has never seen a dry

cleaner!

 

Rama

 

 

>

> []On

> Behalf Of Asha deb

> Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:45 AM

> sgopan;

> Re: Doubt.

>

>

> Dear sir,

> Thank you for your prompt response. From your reply,

> I perceive that my understanding of the samskara of

> seemantham is more or less correct. I perfectly well

> understand the fact that seemantham is ALSO done for

> the welfare of the child and the mother which is what

> we do in the poochootal functions as well.

> With no offense being meant to anyone on this list or

> elsewhere, I am of the opinion that if one indeed does

> have immense attachment to the Almighty, there is

> really no need to ask him for anything. My question

> was raised in order to find out that even if I had to

> go through a seemantham, would it be possible to

> abstain from chanting/doing karyam that intentionally

> asks for a male child.

> I respect our traditions and have tried to adhere to

> most of them with/without much ado. But at junctures

> such as this one, I do not believe in citing the

> sastras and our traditions and willfully following

> them despite the intentions behind them. I do

> understand the reasons behind doing do in ancient

> times, but cannot see any reason to follow them per se

> today.

> I would much rather distribute food to the less

> priviledged on that day in the name of my child.

> If anyone can help me better understand the reason we

> still follow several of our vaidhika karmas as we did

> in the days of yore with no modifications whatsoever

> to conform to todays ways of living, I will be

> grateful.

> Thanks for all of your wishes.

> Pranams.

__

> Start your day with - make it your home page

> http://www./r/hs

>

>

Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...