Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 > Post 3 > Dear srivaishNava perunthagaiyeer, > > Continuing the answer to the question > "> is seethaa powerful?> "> now another question arises out of curiosity. Does raamaa recognize at any time seethaa is powerful enough to defend herself on her own or does she needs a support from her husband always? > > I wish to hear from learned scholars in the forum. > > The following will be a point I wish to present before the scholars of this list, as a sort of reply to the question raised. Of course the scholars can say whether this point is ok or not. Why I say that is clear from the comment below. > > While seethaa is describing the kaakaasuran episode in sundhara kaaNdam to sri hanumaan, she says to hanumaan > "> raama, breaking his sleep [when the blood from my breasts fell on raamaa due to the action of kaakaasuran] said - > > aaseevisha iva krudhDha: svasan vaakyam abhaashatha: || 24th slokam > kEna thE naaga naasa ooru vikshatham vai sthana antharam > ka: kreedathi sarOshEna pancha vakthrEna bhOginaa|| 25th slokam > 38th sargam sundhara kaaNdam > > meaning: raama, sharpened with a lot of anger, spoke this sentence [which fell] like poison -> "> hey [seethaa], one who has thighs like the tusker of the elephant, who spoilt your bosoms? Who is playing with a five-headed snake, which is angry? > [sarOshEna - with a lot of vengeance? Or a lot of anger] > > Comment: I read in a book of tamil translation - of this slOkam which reads - unadhu maarbu evanaal thunbuRuththap pattadhu, kOpaththinaal vaai thiranthuLLa 5 thalai naagaththudan evan viLaiyaadugiRaan?> "> . > > This leaves to a doubt here, whether, raama identifies himself as the angry five-headed snake or he means seethaa as the angry snake. That he is angry is clear from previous slOkam - by > "> aaseevisha iva krudhDha:> "> and vaakyam abhaashatha:. As a continuation of expression of his anger, he also takes a grass bit and sends it as a brahmaasthram, which is well known. > > But think for a moment. Here the affected party is seethaa - so it is normal to expect she is full of anger - > '> sarOshEna> '> . Further the word bhOginaa is feminine gender, indicating seethaa, the female snake, and not bhOgin, which means raama himself. So, my point here is raama recognizes > "> her capacity> "> that she is more than capable to defend herself in case of adversity by calling her a 5 headed snake. But she chooses to keep silent, so that he takes action, which enhances his stature as > '> saraNaagatha vathsalan> '> . > > Another argument which can be advanced by scholars in favour of raamaa, rather than seethaa is - In the earlier slokams, raama says to seethaa, > "> hey seethaa, are you not capable to shy away even this crow?> "> - which means she is incapable even to scare a crow and needs support and protection, always, from him. > > But suddenly how can you say raama recognizes her capacity? My answer is that the couple is making fun with each other. When he realizes that the damage is already done, he recognizes her capacity as well, and uses his valour. > > Another beauty of a point to prove seethaa is capable is available again in sundhara kaaNdam - after getting a 2 months time from raavaNa seethaa says to him - > > asandhEsaath thu raamasya thapasa: cha anupaalanaath | > na thvaam kurmi dhasagreeva bhasma bhasmaarha thEjasaa || 5-22-20 > > dhasagreeva = O RaavaNa! > bhasma arha = (although you are) suited to be burnt into ashes > asandhEsaath = not having mandate; > raamasya = of raama; > anupaalanaath = (and) preserving > thapasa: = austerity; > na kurmi = I am not making > thvaam bhasmam = you into ashes > thEjasaa = (with my) glory. > > Meaning: > "> O RaavaNaa! Although you are suited to be burnt into ashes, not having the mandate of Raama and preserving austerity, I am not reducing you into ashes with my glory." > > Seethaa is very clear here in this slOkam - I do not have the mandate of raamaa to kill you or burn you to ashes with my own capacity, for having seen me with eyes filled with kaamam [about which she expresses in slokams 14 15, 17, and 18 of this sargam 22 of sundhara kaaNdam].> > > Any more doubts about the capability of seethaa please? > > Dhaasan > > Vasudevan m.g. > > PS: sorry for delay in serving this post as I was away for more than a week on official business as usual. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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