Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Post 5 Dear sri vaishNava perunthagaiyeer, We are studying sage vaalmeeki's 'andha raama soundharyam' before really comparing with the hanumaan's description by poet aruNaachala kavi. You may ask 'hey, what is the use of reading about the physical description of raama?' If seethaa can claim, in front of hanumaan, that upon hearing the description of raamaa, there will no worry for her, how about us, the lowly ones, in comparison to seethaa. That is the phalan - fruit of this series- all our sorrows will vanish. Also seethaa, the wife of raama, enjoys herself in hearing, from another party, about her husband raamaa's beauty. We, sri vaishNavaas, are the sthree janam [women folk] in this world and he is our purushan. So, we are the wives of the lord. May be, it is our duty also, to enjoy our lord's physical beauty as well guNa beauty through sree vishNu sahasra naamam [which is bhagavath guNa dharpaNam - mirror reflecting lord's qualities]. Enjoying sreemadh raamaayaNam, in its letter and content, has to be the part and parcel of our daily routines, that one and only story of raamaa, that story, which he himself heard and enjoyed, having been sung by his sons in front of him. If I add another point here - may be I am wrong which the learned in the group has to correct - sreemadh raamaayaNam and sree vishNusahsra naamam are THE TWO WORKS composed by others, read or sung in front of him, which were enjoyed by the lord, about himself. May be, all other works are not enjoyed by the lord, including the reverential 'geethaa and vEdhaas', since these were composed by him, told or put out by him. These works were not heard and enjoyed by him like these two. That way these two are something very very special. [eppozhudhumE thannaip paRRI piRar than edhirilEyE pugazhndhu sonnaal adhu thani aanandham thane - adhaRku manushyanO kadavuLO - vilakku illai allavaa? if somebody describes about us in front of us, then is it not a special haapiness? For this - human or god - No exceptions] Another reader asked me, sir, what is that you want to convey in the 'lotus failed' series? May be my drafting is poor and the point which I want to convey is not done in a simple way. I answered him, just I wanted to compile the physical description of raama in one series, as stated by vaalmeeki and others like kamban, aruNaachalak kavi et al. That is why I started this series with a 'raama soundharyam aRindhu' krithi. Now let us get back to the slOkam wherein seethaa says let my 'sOkam' go away. yaani raamasya lingaani lakshmaNasya cha vaanara thaani bhooya: samaachakshva na maam sOka: samaavisEth || 5-35- 3 yaani - what they are raamasya - raama's lingaani - characteristics lakshmaNasya cha - and lakshmaNa's vaanara - O! monkey thaani - them bhooya: - again samaachakshva - relate in detail maam - in me sOka - grief na samaavisEth - will have no place. Meaning: seethaa says to hanumaan, "O! monkey! please relate in detail the characteristics of raama and lakshmaNa again; grief will have no place in me". keedhrusam thasya samsthaanam? roopam raamasya keedhrusam? kathham ooru ? kathham baahoo ? lakshhmaNasya cha samsa mE || 5- 35- 4 keedhrusam - what are they ? thasya - that samsthaanam - food habits roopam - form raamasya - raama's keedhrusam - how is it ? ooru - thigh kathham - how is it? baahu katham - how are their arms lakshmaNasya cha - and lakshmaNa's mE - to me samsa - relate. Meaning: seethaa asks hanumaan, "What are raama's and lakshmaNa's food habits? How is their form? How are their thighs? How are their arms? Please relate to me in detail". raama: kamala pathra aksha: sarva saththva [bhoota] manOhara: | roopa dhaakshiNya sampanna: prasoothO janakaathmajE || 5-35-8 raama: - raama kamala pathra aksha - lotus-petal like eyed sarva saththva manOhara - captivates everyone roopa dhaakshiNya sampanna - has beauty and kindness prasootha: - born with these janakaathmajE - oh Janakaa's daughter meaning: Hanumaan started describing to seethaa with slOkam meaning - Oh, Janaka's daughter! raama is born with lotus petal like eyes; captivates everyone with beauty and kindness. POINT: See here the poet aruNachala kavi - he says, 'gathi enRu eduththavarkku padhiyum nidhiyum tharum karuNaa nayana visaalamum'. Since poet has already taken that kamalam - to compare with feet, he puts out vaalmeeki's other points in his words -karunai - kindness. Sarva saththva manOhara - reached him as 'gathi' - he gives - padhi nidhi, karuNai - then will he be not captivated - losing the mind, manam haram. Now let us just go to kamban - uruk kaattu padalam in sundhara kaaNdam - aNNal than thiru mugam kamalam, aam enin kaNNinukku uvamai vERu yaadhu kaatugEn? thaN madhi, aam ena uraikkath thakkadhO? veN madhi polindhu, adhu melindhu thEyumaal - 51 meaning: hanumaan says, if I say raamaa's face is like a lotus, then where I will go for the example for describing the eyes. If I say the face is like a moon, it is not correct for moon will grow some times and suffer depletion at another time. Point: That poet's deft handling of description comes to fore - if I say to face, where can I go for another object of comparison - so I have to say for both - the face as well as eyes. A lotus embedded in another one - that also does not come correctly. So the lotus is failing itself - can it go here with this, or with that, or with both, or not all? Already the other poet has given the failing lotus in ganDham mEvum aravindha malarum avar kaalukku nighar aamO, kaikkuththaan sollappOmO? [for meaning refer post 1] Whether it will go for hands, legs, face or eyes or totally fails? Oh raamaa - andha raama soundharyam ennaal aRindhu sollap pOmO? Dhasan Vasudevan m.g. DISCLAIMER: This Message and its contents is intended solely for the addressee and is proprietary.Information in this mail is for L&T Business Usage only. Any Use to other than the addressee is misuse and infringement to Proprietorship of L&T ECC.If you are not the addressee please return the mail to the sender.L&T ECC DIVISION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Dear Sri Vasudevan, []On Behalf Of M.G.Vasudevan Thursday, October 06, 2005 4:06 PM oppiliappan; ramanuja Cc: ; raamabhakthi lotus failed 5 >Whether it will go for hands, legs, face or eyes or totally fails? Oh raamaa - andha raama >soundharyam ennaal aRindhu sollap pOmO? The title of your article is very apt. Words fail to describe him(Narayana), his gunas(Rama) and his leelas(Krishna). If we pick words from Bhagavatha across various skandas we will be lost in the various synonyms ascribed to him using the word - padma, kamala, abja and so on... Padmanethra / Kamalaksha / Kamalanayana / padmanibhekshana Padmanabha Padmapadha Padmagarbha Padmasana regards sukumar Dhasan Vasudevan m.g. DISCLAIMER: This Message and its contents is intended solely for the addressee and is proprietary.Information in this mail is for L&T Business Usage only. Any Use to other than the addressee is misuse and infringement to Proprietorship of L&T ECC.If you are not the addressee please return the mail to the sender.L&T ECC DIVISION The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s)and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender or administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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