True fact of Lord Shiva

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Dear all,

We all have to keep it in our mind that there is no comparison between siva and vishnu.Both r same.

I don't want to say that i belong to siva or vishnu.There is no comparison at all.

 

Lord vishnu said those who don't pray siva they will not get full

satisfaction.In bagawatgeetha he said,all the worship of us atlast goes to lord

shiva.

one small story:

Once adhisankarar's mother got dharshan of shiva after the prayer of

adhisankarar(before his mother going to die).Thereafter she got darshan of

vishnu also without praying.

 

Then she asked "i wanted to see shiva but i have seen vishnu also to" to his son.

Then he told" If u pray vishnu shiva also will come "or "If u pray shiva ,vishnu

also will come"

There is no comparison between them.Both r same.

After that she said"I don't want to see anything in this world hereafter,I had

very good darshan,now i want to leave"

Then she went to heaven(mukthi).

So ,please friends we worship vishnu and shiva .It is our wish to pray anybody.

So please don't compare.

 

"Om namachivaya"

"Om namo narayana namaha"

"Baja Govindham"(It will guide us what we have to do in our life and give peacefulness)

 

Thank you friends,-- with regards,K.Saravanan -- with regards,K.Saravanan

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>>bagawatgeetha he said,all the worship of us atlast goes to lord

shiva.<<

 

Can you quote the original shloka for this?

 

There is only one place where the Lord says rudrAnAm shankaraschAsmi

(of Rudras, I am Shankara")

 

Ishwara in Bhagavadgita does not refer to Shiva.

 

 

saravanan sundaram <ksaravanan23

 

Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:36:44 +0530

True fact of Lord Shiva

 

 

 

Dear all,

We all have to keep it in our mind that there is no comparison between

siva and vishnu.Both r same.

I don't want to say that i belong to siva or vishnu.There is no

comparison at all.

 

Lord vishnu said those who don't pray siva they will not get full

satisfaction.In bagawatgeetha he said,all the worship of us atlast goes

to lord shiva.

one small story:

Once adhisankarar's mother got dharshan of shiva after the prayer of

adhisankarar(before his mother going to die).Thereafter she got darshan

of vishnu also without praying.

 

Then she asked "i wanted to see shiva but i have seen vishnu also to"

to his son.

Then he told" If u pray vishnu shiva also will come "or "If u pray

shiva ,vishnu also will come"

There is no comparison between them.Both r same.

After that she said"I don't want to see anything in this world

hereafter,I had very good darshan,now i want to leave"

Then she went to heaven(mukthi).

So ,please friends we worship vishnu and shiva .It is our wish to pray

anybody.

So please don't compare.

 

"Om namachivaya"

"Om namo narayana namaha"

"Baja Govindham"(It will guide us what we have to do in our life and

give peacefulness)

 

Thank you friends,

--

with regards,

K.Saravanan

 

 

 

 

--

with regards,

K.Saravanan

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SrI:

SrImatE rAmAnujAya nama:

SrI krishNa parabrahmaNE nama:

SrImAn nArAyaNasya charaNau saraNam prapadyE

 

Dear vaishNavAs,

 

It is unfortunate that this topic is discussed so long by somany

people in the group. I do not see any other reason than ignorance,

why we are dragging this issue so far. No SrI vaishNava is ever

disrespectful to Lord Siva, what SrI vaishNavAs believe is that Lord

Siva also forms the body of our perumAL. That is to say, Lord Siva

is also dependant on the perumAL for the very existance. Lord Siva

Himself is never envious of the position of his Lord, SrImAn

nArAyaNa, and ever meditating on His lotus feet. He adorns Ganga

dEvi on his head, after she washes the feet of Lord Hari, the

Supreme purifier, and then he bears the name Siva(auspicious). When

rAkshasAs like bhasmAsura tried to anhillate lord Siva, he

immediately prayed to his Swami for protection. There is no

competetion between lord Siva and Lord vishNu, for both of them are

aware of their respective positions. vEdAs, the infallible truth,

also proclaim the same fact.

 

With this knowledge in mind, SrI vaishNavAs hold great respect for

lord siva. There is no SrI vaishNava who considers Siva as

inauspicious. However what SrI vaishNavAs reject, is to hold Siva

and vishNu on the same level, as it is condemned by vEdAs, padma

purANA, and all other pramANAs.

 

The reason for asking this 'gAyatri' to stop messages, is not just

because the messages revere Siva, but they are against all tenents

of SrI visishTAdvaita sarIra-sarIri sidhAnta. SrI AchAryAs starting

from lakshmi nAtha,....nAtha, yamuna,.... until present day's

AchAryAs every one proclaimed vEdA's one pointed essense as SrI

visishTa advaita. SrI vaishNavAs completely reject any idea that

equates jIvAtma and paramAtma, or that falsifies this creation as

unreal. The multiplicity of souls is eternal truth. Even 'you are

never me', and you can forget about statements like'you are God'.

VedAs have never taught such stuff, and SrI AchAryAs can prove the

authenticity of our sidhAnta with pramANa, nyAya and tarka.

 

A SrI vaishNava never hesitates to say anything outside of vEdic

(visishTa advaitha) sidhAnta is wrong, but however, they do not

disrespect people who are non vEdic. But to proclaim non vEdic

theories as vEdic religion is completely absurd and objectionable.

Such claims should be thoroughly dealt as ordained by SrI rAmAnuja

himself. These days many people started saying, 'I am also a

vaishNava but I am secular enough to accept all philosophies', the

answer to all such people is that, 'you are just born in vaishNava

families but did not learn anything about vaishNavism, mere birth in

vaishNava family doesnot ensure any body to be a vaishNava, only

when one takes exclusive refuge of the lotus feet of a vaishNava

AchArya and learns the sidhAnta from him then one originally becomes

a vaishNava as long as one follows the AchArya'.

 

Those who are not Sri vaishNavAs are also welcome to learn about

vaishNava sidhAnta. But that doesnot mean that to accomodate non-SrI

vaishNavAs, SrI vaishNavAs have to compromise on their very

sidhAnta. So, please learn from learned SrI vaishNavAs about

vaishNava sidhAnta, ask doubts, but please do not use this as a

platform to anti-vaishNava schools, which are also non-vEdic.

 

dAsOham,

SrIperumbUdUru vEnkaTa vinOd.

 

 

, tatachar@a... wrote:

> >>bagawatgeetha he said,all the worship of us atlast goes to lord

> shiva.<<

>

> Can you quote the original shloka for this?

>

> There is only one place where the Lord says rudrAnAm

shankaraschAsmi

> (of Rudras, I am Shankara")

>

> Ishwara in Bhagavadgita does not refer to Shiva.

>

>

> saravanan sundaram <ksaravanan23@g...>

>

> Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:36:44 +0530

> True fact of Lord Shiva

>

>

>

> Dear all,

> We all have to keep it in our mind that there is no comparison

between

> siva and vishnu.Both r same.

> I don't want to say that i belong to siva or vishnu.There is no

> comparison at all.

>  

> Lord vishnu said those who don't pray siva they will not get

full

> satisfaction.In bagawatgeetha he said,all the worship of us atlast

goes

> to lord shiva.

> one small story:

> Once adhisankarar's mother got dharshan of shiva after

the prayer of

> adhisankarar(before his mother going to die).Thereafter she got

darshan

> of vishnu also without praying.

>  

> Then she asked "i wanted to see shiva but i have seen vishnu

also to"

> to his son.

> Then he told" If u pray vishnu shiva also will come "or "If u

pray

> shiva ,vishnu also will come"

> There is no comparison between them.Both r same.

> After that she said"I don't want to see anything in this world

> hereafter,I had very good darshan,now i want to leave"

> Then she went to heaven(mukthi).

> So ,please friends we worship vishnu and shiva .It is our wish

to pray

> anybody.

> So please don't compare.

>  

> "Om namachivaya"

> "Om namo narayana namaha"

> "Baja Govindham"(It will guide us what we have to do in our life

and

> give peacefulness)

>  

> Thank you friends,

> --

> with regards,

> K.Saravanan

>

>

>

>

> --

> with regards,

> K.Saravanan

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