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- Rajagopalan, Ramanan (GE Advanced Materials, Consultant)

aazhwar (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:01 PM

RE: Prapanna ParithrANam

 

Brahma

 

"BrahmAvum madhu kaidapargal kaiyil agappattu kann ezhanthu, dhanam ezhanthu,

nilam thuzhAvi, rudran kaiyilaE thalai aruppundaiyAlum rakshagan AgamAttAn"

 

Madhu and Kaidapa had once snatched the vedas from Brahma. Hence, he lost all

the jnAnam and his wealth. In this context, veda is the wealth. This is

considered as the wealth for andanars (Brahmins). Thirumangai Azhwar refers to

this as andanar mAttu andhivaitha.... in ThirunetunthAntakam while referrring

to the AshtAkshara mantram.

 

Nilam thuzhAvi refers to the aspect of one looking down towards the earth with a

physical activity with one's feet scratching the ground as a reaction to an

embarrasing situation. This aspect could be referred to the follwing

NammAzhwar's pasuram on ArAvayitrAn (popularly known as AppakudathAn in

ThiruppErnagar, also known as Koviladi)

 

inRennaip poruLaakkith thannathennuL vaithAn

anRennaip puNarththathen seyvaan?kunRennath thikazmaadangaL soozthirup

pEraanonRenak karuLcheyya vuNarththaluR REnE. (TVM 10.8.9)

 

There was an interesting discussion between Bhattar and Nanjeer about this

pasuram. Azhwar says that today, Perumal has made him an entity in such a way

that Perumal has entered in to his body. Where as this was not the case until

yesterday. What is the justification for this?

 

Perumal: Azhweer, you have attained all the aspects that a soul needs to attain

by completely doing Atma samarpanam to me, and that is why I have entered in to

you. You are so special.

 

Without taking credit for himself, Azhwar replies with the following statement:

 

That again is purely because of your nirhEtuka krupai

 

For this reply, Perumal could not answer any further and hence started to stand

in a postion where He was looking down and drawing cirlces with His feet.

Perumal is even a kind enough to do this nilam thuzhAval for bhaktA's sake. In

this context, Perumal could be considered as Krishna in child form as

NammAzhwar was completly immersed in "Krishna trishnA tattvam".

 

On the otherhand, in the case of Brahma he had to do nilam thuzhAval because he

could not protect himself. Finally, Perumal took Hayagrivar avatAram to get

back the vedas and protect Brahma. AlavandAr refers to three pathis, prajApathi

(Brahma), pasupathi (Rudran) and RamApathi (Perumal) when referring to Brahma.

When Perumal took TriVikrama avatAram, there were two water sources that fell

on Perumal's feet. One was from the kamadalam of Brahma and the other was from

MahApali. Rudran took the water that fell from Brahma lOkam on his head to get

himself purified, and hence got the name Shivan.

 

Swamy PL also refers to the story where Brahma's head was plucked by Rudran.

With all the all the above instances it becomes very clear that even Brahma

cannot protect us from this samsara.

 

Let us look into the case of Rudran in the next posting...

 

aDiyEn,

ramanan

 

aazhwar (AT) vsnl (DOT) com [aazhwar (AT) vsnl (DOT) com]Sent:

Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:36 AMRajagopalan, Ramanan (GE Advanced

Materials, Consultant)Re: Prapanna ParithrANam

Dear Ramanan, As of today mornign I have forwarded three postings and 2 have

already appeared in the groups. You might have seen them.

 

I have reced. 6 postings with astonishing frequency from you.

 

Thanks and regards

dAsan

vanamamalai padmanabhan

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Rajagopalan, Ramanan (GE Advanced Materials, Consultant)

aazhwar (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:57 PM

RE: Prapanna ParithrANam

Please ignore my previous posting on indra... It should read as pAlakanAi

instead of nAyakanAi.. My apologies.

 

New posting 6..

 

Indran

 

Swamy PL's discussion on Indran's case is very interesting. He starts with the following:

 

trilOkya pAlakanAi irundhu eppozhudhu nam padham nazhuvappOgiratho endru anchi

sApathukku aatpattu...

 

Indran is the king of swarga loka, which is third in hierarchy from

bhoomandalam. Though he is the king of all the devargal, he is always nervous

not to loose his position. He even gets into lowly acts to maintain his

position. There was a story of a king who succesfully completed a yAgam to get

indra padhavi. He used to do lot of dhAna dharma in his kingdom. When he went

to the swarga loka, Indra somehow wanted to prevent him from adorning the

throne. When the king answered indra's question on who was the great dharmasali

in the king's rajyam, the latter had to reply that it was the king him. Indra

immdietly quoted the king as self-boasting soul and pushed him down back to the

bhoolokam.

 

Once, Durvasar had the garland prasadam of Sridevi nAchiyAr. He saw indra on the

way, and gifted it to him. Without showing any respect for that, indra put that

on his elephant. Unknown of the vaibhavam of the prasadam, the elephant put the

garland down and stepped on it. Sage Durvasar immediately cursed indra to loose

all the wealth. In other instance, indra got cursed by sage Gautama for

misbehaviour with his wife. That time indra got 1000 eyea all on his body.

 

indrajit kaiyil agappattu..

 

Indrajit, the son of Ravana had once defeated indran. That instance is also quoted by PL.

 

MahAbali pOlvar idathil Iswaryam parikoduthu kannum kanneer kondu kazhuthum kappadaiyumAi...

 

Mahabali performed yAgam to get indra padhavi. At the time when he was about to

finish it succesfully, indran was horrified and eventually went and fell at the

feet of Perumal. kappadai here refers to the torn cloth. A wealthy person, when

he becomes poor, will always feel ashamed of showing his poor status to the

external world, and hence will try to hide the torn cloth on his body.

NammAzhwar refers to this state of a person in one of his pasurams when

describing the state of a person who will get protected by Perumal. EmPerumAnAr

has dedicated this pasuram for ThirunArAyanapuram:

 

orunNaa yagamaay Oda,vulaguda Nnaandavar,karunNaay kavarntha kaalar sidhaigiya

paanaiyar,perunNaadu kaaNa immaiyilEpichchai thaamkoLvar,thirunNaaraNan_thaaL

kaalam peRachchindhith thuymminO (TVM 4.1.1)

 

This kind of person will not even be able to recognize the dog lying on the

road, as it would be dark when he comes out of his place.

 

The fourth instance is about Govardana malai. People used to offer food to

indra, but with the command of Krishna they stopped it once and offered it to

the hill itself. That was consumed completely by Krishna. He himself is the

hill, dam and everything as qutoed in sAstras. Krishna specifically did this

act to show the people that indra is not a nitya (eternal) entity.

 

Let us look into the case of Brahma and others in the follwoing postings.

 

aDiyEn,

ramanan

aazhwar (AT) vsnl (DOT) com [aazhwar (AT) vsnl (DOT) com]Sent:

Monday, November 14, 2005 10:02 PMRajagopalan, Ramanan (GE Advanced

Materials, Consultant)Cc: sumivaradan Subject: Prapanna ParithrANam

 

Dear Ramanan,

 

Very Good start .Go ahead please.

 

I have slightly made some cosmetic changes in the message. Please convert this

into suitable colours and fonts. Try to give the pAsuram nos. whenever we quote

from aruLich cheyal .A suitable heding would be wonderful.

I am forwarding it to ramanuja and vanamamalai groups.

 

Why not oppiliappan groups also?

 

 

dAsan

'vanamamalai padmanabhan

ps. kinldy finish nArAr iNdai.

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