MuNDa folks in S. India

[Guest guest]

I don't know of Munda speaking folks in TN or Karnataka or

Kerala? Are there any references for Munda folks of South India?

There is a Fig. (9?) in the article (URL given below)

which puts many Munda folks in South India? Who are they,

what are they called?

 

Any MuNDa languages in S. India?

 

Thanks,

N. Ganesan

 

indictraditions, "cjep_sa" <cjep_sa> wrote:

> PEOPLING OF INDIA

> Madhav Gadgil and N.V. Joshi

> Centre for Ecological Sciences

> Indian Institute of Science

> Bangalore 560 012, India

>

> U.V.Shambu Prasad

> Centre for Research in Indo-Bangladesh Relations

> 107, Jodhpur Park (Ground Floor)

> Calcutta 700068, India.

>

> S.Manoharan and Suresh Patil

> Anthropological Survey of India, Southern Regional Office

> 2963, Gokulam Road, Mysore 570002, India.

>

> http://ces.iisc.ernet.in/hpg/cesmg/peopling.html

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[Guest guest]

I saw that. But still I want to know whether there are any

MuNDa languages. LS once gave a paper by one Kamatchinathan

which puts many MuNDa folks in Sangam texts!!

 

Also, Mr. Patrick Harrigan, (webmaster for www.murugan.org,

www.katikama.org, www.vedda.org, ...) stayed as our guest

and, gave a nice lecture on KatirkAmam pilgrimage.

 

The veDDas' name is similar to vETTai 'hunting',

vETuvar/vETTuvar 'hunters', vETTal/vENDal 'to desire'

and so on. In the South, vETuvars are devotees of VishNu,

their common name is kOPPaNan/kOpaNan, there are poems

and inscriptions by them from 11th century. GopaNa,

the Vijayanagara minister and a brahmin, restored Hindu

worship in Southern temples. There was a discussion about

kOvalan, a tamil name in old Indology archives, and I think

Tiru. Chandra gave the DED entries. Typically, the vETuvars

run a temple for Krishna in TN. Called mAl-ai kOyil. mAl = Vishnu

"ai" is elder brother, father, in Tamil (Cf. discussions

in CTamil ), and Cattle is taken to mAlai kOyil

to be blessed by vETuvar priests. 4-5th century hero stone

inscriptions, called Chengam herostones published by Nagasamy

about 30 years ago, are from the vETuvar temples.

Hence my question:

Any references where MuNDa substratum is discussed

among veDDas, S. India, etc.,?

 

Regards,

N. Ganesan

 

INDOLOGY, vsundaresan@h... wrote:

> > Any MuNDa languages in S. India?

> >

>

> Ganesan, look closer at the map (Fig. 9) in the URL you quote.

> It shows presence of Austric speakers by a star and absence by

> a solid dot/triangle. Somewhat redundant, but check also Fig.

> 10, which shows presence and absence of Dravidian speakers.

>

> Orissa, Bihar and Madhya Pradesh have many stars for Austric

> languages; S. India has little. There is a star here and there

> in north Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh, near the borders with

> Maharashtra and Orissa. There is a little too much information

> on these maps, which makes it confusing, but the table given

> in the article clarifies things.

>

> Vidyasankar