Guest guest Posted May 16, 2001 Report Share Posted May 16, 2001 Thanks to Sri. Vishal Agarwal, I came to know of the latest reference of Kuiper about a Rsi in the Rgveda. Kuiper, F. B. J.; 2000; A bilingual Rsi (RV X.106); pp. 157-160 in Anusantatyai, ed. by Eva Tichy and Almut Hintze; J. H. Roll; Germany. The paper begins: "Half a century ago, in An Austro-Asiatic myth in the in the Rigveda (1950), attention was drawn to a curious Vedic myth of an archer god who cleaves a mountain to win the odana. Although clearly of foreign origin,it was grafted upon the Indra-VRtra myth and thus 'Aryanized'. In the Rigveda there are no references to it in the family books (II-VII), but they are, with one exception (I.61.7), confined to the eigth maNDala. [...] The attempt to etymologize these words on the basis of MuNDa was clearly mistaken and I withdraw it entirely. ... There is no indication of an 'Austro-Asiatic' origin." [...] "Note 1: As for the retroflex N in KaNva, it does not prove that Old MuNDa had a retroflex .n (left open as a possibility in 1967, see Kuiper 1997, 86). Since Old Aryan at that time had both /n/ and /.n/ (a 'reduction' of the Old Dravidian tripartite system of dental, alveolar and retroflex /n/), it could render a foreign non-dental n by /.n/, as later happened in Greek loanwords, e.g. paNaphara - 'name of an astrological house' (= Gr. epanphora)." Just glancing the paper, what strikes me is the very famous and oft quoted family myth of Pandya Kings of Madurai (I heard Prof. Parpola has just submitted a paper on MBh. Pandavas and Pandyas.). For example, in MadurApuri Ambikai Maalai, (which I put it in the Project Madurai website), a king of the Pandyas by name Kulashekara Pandiyan proudly tells that he belongs to a family that hit the mount Meru with a weapon called "ceNTu" - a type of boomerang archery. Probably to obtain food for his people. Kulashekara says about himself: "vaTakun2Raic ceNTAl aTittOn2". Often, Pandyas and VishNu are compared in Devaraja concept (see F. Hardy for quotes from sangam texts). I don't know whether all the data from Tamil texts have been compared with the RV myth. ceNTu is etymologically related with "kaNi" (axe), kaNai (arrow), etc., Dr. Palaniappan wrote on kaNi, kulkarNi a while ago: http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-shl/WA.EXE?A2=ind9803&L=indology&P=R1433 8 (The editor breaks the line, To read the URL, one should add 8 to the line starting with http). valai 'net' gives birth to valaiyar/valaivar (fishermen) in sangam texts using y and v as glides respectively. In similar lines, karai 'shore' gives birth to karaiyar, a tamil speaking caste and karava, a sinhala speaking caste in Sri Lanka. So, easily tamil etymology for kaNva is kaN- => kaNva (in tamil literature, kaNva rishi is kaNuva munivar). Odana is related with tamil word uL-('inside'), tamil uNA, uNavu (food), UN ('meat') are related with uL- ('to put inside (stomach)'). oDa-(related with tamil uLa-/uNa-) is odana (Cf. yATu 'goat' > yAdava, -na suffix as in tamil candu/cAndu > candana). Any comment is appreciated. Regards, N. Ganesan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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