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>From the tragic to the trivial. How much more satisfying to the Romantic

imagination is the derivation from shubha. The trials of 'scientific

objectivity' in philology!

 

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On Wed, 16 May 2001, S.Kalyanaraman wrote:

 

> INDOLOGY, shrinivast@h... wrote:

> > Srisa Chandra Vidyarnava in "A Catechism of Hindu Dharma" (AMS

> > Press, New York 1974 [1919] remarks that the Chandogya Upanishad

> > derives the term shudra from shubha=grief; i.e. one who having heard

> > of grief melts; one who is affected by small things and is ruffled

> by > trifles (p. 39). > He also points out that in later grammars

> and lexicographies > shudra is derived from the root shuc=to purify,

> ca being changed to > da and the vowel emphasized (p.39). I would like

> to know the > reference in Panini for this kind of operation.

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> According to Kaut.ilya's Arthas'a_stra, s'u_dra may be derived from

> ks.udraka, one engaged in making miniature beads.

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>Yes, of course Vidyasankar is correct. The Ch. Up. offers no such etymology.

 

The etymology mentioned by Vidyarnava is actually the first of three

rather interesting explanations of Raikva's use of the term proposed

by ZankarAcArya in an effort to explain why the enigmatic sage should

address a king (as we may suppose JAnaZruti to have been) with the

term "zUdra."

 

According to Zankara, J. was both grieved at hearing his greatness

demeaned by a passing haMsa and softened by that grief ( zucA..

Adravati). According to this interpretation Raikva then addresses J.

by the term zUdra (>zug + dru) not to demean him but merely to

demonstrate to him his own esoteric knowledge ( ie. of J's inner

feelings.) This is of course not offered as a scientific etymology

of the term, but merely a somewhat esoteric explanation of a

seemingly jarring note in the zruti.

 

Incidentally Z's other two explanations of the epithet are less

obscure but more demeaning to J. in that they (1) argue that J.

although not a zUdra by birth is acting like one in attempting to

secure esoteric knowledge through the offering of wealth alone as

opposed to appropriate service to a guru and (2) [ascribed by Zankara

to "others"] that he has simply not offered R. a large enough gift!

All of this is in Z's bhASya on Ch. Up. 4.2.3.

 

> INDOLOGY, shrinivast@h... wrote:

> > Srisa Chandra Vidyarnava in "A Catechism of Hindu Dharma" (AMS

>> Press, New York 1974 [1919] remarks that the Chandogya Upanishad

>> derives the term shudra from shubha=grief; i.e. one who having

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>zubha = grief?? Anyway, chAndogya upanishad hasno such etymology.

>The king, jAnazruti pautrAyana, goes to learn from one raikva.

>The latter calls the king "zUdra". Later commentators try to find

>an explanation for why someone who is obviously a kshatriya is

>called a zUdra here.

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>It is in brahmasUtra 1.3.34 (not in the upanishad itself) that

>one finds an explanation based on the root zuc = to grieve (not

>to purify). As for Paninian sanction for changing the terminal

>-c to a -dr, I leave it to experts, but I suspect there is none

>for zuc. Note that the brahmasUtra derives it from zuc + dravaNa,

>deriving from root dru = to become fluid.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2001 6:25 PM

[Y-Indology] Re: Etymology of shudra

 

 

> According to Kaut.ilya's Arthas'a_stra, s'u_dra may be derived from

> ks.udraka, one engaged in making miniature beads.

 

If you refer to KA II.13.37, 40 - ks.udraka cannot be interpreted as "one

engaged", its meaning here - "minor work". Similar meaning you can see in

III.3.30, 17.06, 19.23, IV.10.6 - "small articles", "trifling articles".

Only in one place, VIII.4.09 - ks.udraka has the meaning "common" people,

which opposed to chiefs, mukhyas. And in this context there are no reasons

to interprete them as shudras only.

 

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