[Y-Indology] Explaining discontinuities in culture

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Arun Gupta asked:

 

> a paper as neat as your EJVS September 1999 one

>that neatly quantifies the non-IE substrate in Greek, that would

>be most helpful.

 

Well, the debate has been going on for many decades now (eg. Georgiev 1937,

Merlingen 1963/67). People try to distinguish between a general Aegean

substrate (partly also in Anatolia!) and a supposed pre-Greek IE one

("Pelasgian").

 

I have a German summary from the Sixties somewhere. There is one in French by

 

* M. Sakellariou, Peuples prehelleniques d'origine indo-europeenne, Athens

: Ekdotike Athenon 1977

 

and one in English by the great Croatian linguist (at Vienna)

 

* R. Katicic: Ancient languages of the Balkans. La Haye-Paris: Mouton 1976

 

* (Closer to home, E. Hamp has written many small papers on individual

questions from the Sixties through the Nineties.)

 

 

* You can follow up on such topics in the Vienna Journal "Die Sprache"

(vol. 13 --, 1967--) which includes an "Indogermanische Chronik" with

recent publications. Look for "substrate".

 

 

Cheers, MW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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INDOLOGY, Michael Witzel <witzel@f...> wrote:

 

> In Greece, e.g. the name of the chariot (!) harmat-, not *rot(h)-,

> for

> king (basileus), or note that pottery tends to remain local and

> non-IE,

 

If IE stands for a language family - then

how does one differentiate between IE and non-IE pottery ?

Also, is it possible that IE languages arrived without the

chariot ?

 

Regards,

Subrahmanya