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Genetics can be a powerful tool in answering many longstanding questions

pertaining to migrations, endogamous groups,etc. Before this can be achieved,

genetics must be tested in a simple case, where there is a reasonable

certainty of what happened. I suggest that ( with necessary permissions ) a

genetic study be made of Parsees who are known to be a self-contained

endogamous group of 1500 year standing. (Next to be studied could be Kashmiri

Pandits, Namboodiris of Kerala and Ayangars of Tamilnadu.) If the conclusions

drawn from such a study are consistent with what is otherwise known, genetic

studies can be confidently extended into areas where these will provide new

and unexpected insights.

Rajesh Kochhar

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INDOLOGY, "Rajesh Kochhar" <rkk@N...> wrote:

> Genetics can be a powerful tool in answering many longstanding

questions pertaining to migrations, endogamous groups,etc. Before

this can be achieved, genetics must be tested in a simple case, where

there is a reasonable certainty of what happened.

>

 

Such studies have been done, on other similar populations. e.g.

the Basques in Spain. See the paper titled, "Genetic diversity

in the Iberian Peninsula determined from mitochondrial sequence

analysis" by CorteReal HBSM, Macaulay VA, Richards MB, Hariti G,

Issad MS, CambonThomsen A, Papiha S, Bertranpetit J, Sykes BC,

ANNALS OF HUMAN GENETICS, 60: 331-350, Part 4 JUL 1996.

 

Part of their abstract reads,

 

The timing of divergence of populations within Iberia points to

a shared ancestry of all populations in the Upper Palaeolithic.

Further genetic subdivision is apparent in Catalonia and Andalusia,

with increased genetic diversity in the latter. Lineage diversity

comparisons of Iberian populations with European (Tuscan) and

North African (Algerian) populations shows the Iberian Peninsula

to be more similar to other European populations, although a small

number of Iberian lineages can be traced to North Africa.

 

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Similar studies of more or less isolated populations are being

done periodically. Studies of Icelanders and Tamil Iyers have

already been cited here. It is up to the researchers in the

Anthropological Survey of India and those who give them their

grants, to ensure that test cases are successfully studied in

India too. I would hope that a national institution that sets

standards is sufficiently well-informed about such things.

 

Vidyasankar

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INDOLOGY, vsundaresan@h... wrote:

> Similar studies of more or less isolated populations are being

> done periodically. Studies of Icelanders and Tamil Iyers have

> already been cited here. It is up to the researchers in the

> Anthropological Survey of India and those who give them their

> grants, to ensure that test cases are successfully studied in

> India too. I would hope that a national institution that sets

> standards is sufficiently well-informed about such things.

>

> Vidyasankar

 

What is the reference for genetical study of Tamil Iyers?

 

Thanks,

N. Ganesan

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INDOLOGY, naga_ganesan@h... wrote:

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> What is the reference for genetical study of Tamil Iyers?

 

Check the papers listed in

www.bharatavarsha.com/iyer/iyergenetics.html. This was cited

earlier on this list, by Chandramouli, I think.

 

Other studies have been done on various populations from Tamil

Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and

even Manipur.

 

I would suggest a keyword search through the database of ISI

(not the Pakistani outfit, but the citation index folks in USA),

and a look at back issues of journals like Human Biology, Annals

of Human Genetics, Genome Research and Indian Journal of Medical

Research. There is a pressing need for genetic approaches to

treat various diseases, so the medical journals are a must too.

 

For those in India, I would also suggest getting in touch with

researchers from IISc, ASI and ISI (again, not the Pakistani

hawks, but the statistics people in Kolkota). I see no reason to

treat genetics/genomics with suspicion. A critical attitude is

good, but I would put greater trust in people who know their

statistics than in those who write sensationally in newspapers

and magazines, and get even basic numbers and names wrong.

 

Re: significance of the third decimal in autosome correlations,

no clear progress yet. If someone else sees a good reference

article or book, I would greatly appreciate it if they were to

share the information with me.

 

Yours,

Vidyasankar

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