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I am glad to announce a new issue of the

 

ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF VEDIC STUDIES (EJVS)

Vol. 7 (2001), issue 3 (May 25)

 

 

ARTICLE :

 

Michael Witzel

Autochthonous Aryans?

The Evidence from Old Indian and Iranian Texts.

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/EJVS-7-3.htm

 

--------------------------CONTENTS--------

 

INTRODUCTION

 

§1. Terminology

§ 2. Texts

§ 3. Dates

§4. Indo-Aryans in the RV

§5. Irano-Aryans in the Avesta

§6. The Indo-Iranians

§7. An ''Aryan'' Race?

§8. Immigration

§9. Remembrance of immigration

§10. Linguistic and cultural acculturation

 

THE AUTOCHTHONOUS ARYAN THEORY

 

§ 11. The ''Aryan Invasion'' and the "Out of India" theories

 

LANGUAGE

 

§12. Vedic, Iranian and Indo-European

§13. Absence of Indian influences in Indo-Iranian

§14. Date of Indo-Aryan innovations

§15. Absence of retroflexes in Iranian

§16. Absence of 'Indian' words in Iranian

§17. Indo-European words in Indo-Iranian; Indo-European archaisms vs.

Indian innovations

§18. Absence of Indian influence in Mitanni Indo-Aryan

 

Summary: Linguistics

 

CHRONOLOGY

 

§19. Lack of agreement of autochthonous data with the rest of the

historical evidence: dating of kings & teachers

 

ARCHAEOLOGY

 

§20. Archaeology and texts

§21. RV and the Indus civilization: horses and chariots

§22. Absence of towns in the RV

§23. Absence wheat and rice in the RV

§24. RV class society and the Indus civilization

§25. The SarasvatI and dating of the RV and the brAhmaNas

§26. Harappan fire rituals?

§27. Cultural continuity: pottery and the Indus script

 

VEDIC TEXTS AND SCIENCE

 

§28. The ''astronomical code of the RV''

§29. Astronomy: the equinoxes in ZB

§30. Astronomy: jyotiSa vedAGga and the solstices

§31. Geometry: zulba sUtras

 

SUMMARY

 

§32. The autochthonous theory

 

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The preliminary (email) version is now also available at my website

 

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/EJVS-7-3.htm

 

It will be put on the EJVS website in the next few days

 

http://nautilus.shore.net/~india/ejvs/

 

In the next few weeks a version with proper diacritics (pdf etc.) will follow.

 

 

Cheers, MW

 

========================================================

Michael Witzel

Department of Sanskrit & Indian Studies, Harvard University

2 Divinity Avenue, Cambridge MA 02138, USA

 

ph. 1- 617-496 2990 (also messages)

home page: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm

 

Elect. Journ. of Vedic Studies: http://nautilus.shore.net/~india/ejvs/

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INDOLOGY, Michael Witzel <witzel@f...> wrote:

> I am glad to announce a new issue of the

>

> ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF VEDIC STUDIES (EJVS)

> Vol. 7 (2001), issue 3 (May 25)

> ARTICLE :

>

> Michael Witzel

> Autochthonous Aryans?

> The Evidence from Old Indian and Iranian Texts.

> http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/EJVS-7-3.htm

>

>

 

With a cursory look, this writeup seems to be mostly

a rehash of all the emails that were exchanged on the

Indology list.

 

Nothing new is presented - even the infantile, so called

"sikh" joke is repeated.

 

One good thing is that this is a 'electronic journal' so

atleast a few trees were saved.

 

Regards,

Subrahmanya

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This is neat!

Thanks a bunch, Vatsalamihiraji.

 

I second the learned Panda: may your tribe increase.

 

Yours,

SM

 

INDOLOGY, Michael Witzel <witzel@f...> wrote:

> I am glad to announce a new issue of the

>

> ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF VEDIC STUDIES (EJVS)

> Vol. 7 (2001), issue 3 (May 25)

>

>

> ARTICLE :

>

> Michael Witzel

> Autochthonous Aryans?

> The Evidence from Old Indian and Iranian Texts.

> http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/EJVS-7-3.htm

>

>

--------------------------CONTENTS---

-----

>

> INTRODUCTION

>

> §1. Terminology

> § 2. Texts

> § 3. Dates

> §4. Indo-Aryans in the RV

> §5. Irano-Aryans in the Avesta

> §6. The Indo-Iranians

> §7. An ''Aryan'' Race?

> §8. Immigration

> §9. Remembrance of immigration

> §10. Linguistic and cultural acculturation

>

> THE AUTOCHTHONOUS ARYAN THEORY

>

> § 11. The ''Aryan Invasion'' and the "Out of India" theories

>

> LANGUAGE

>

> §12. Vedic, Iranian and Indo-European

> §13. Absence of Indian influences in Indo-Iranian

> §14. Date of Indo-Aryan innovations

> §15. Absence of retroflexes in Iranian

> §16. Absence of 'Indian' words in Iranian

> §17. Indo-European words in Indo-Iranian; Indo-European archaisms

vs.

> Indian innovations

> §18. Absence of Indian influence in Mitanni Indo-Aryan

>

> Summary: Linguistics

>

> CHRONOLOGY

>

> §19. Lack of agreement of autochthonous data with the rest of the

> historical evidence: dating of kings & teachers

>

> ARCHAEOLOGY

>

> §20. Archaeology and texts

> §21. RV and the Indus civilization: horses and chariots

> §22. Absence of towns in the RV

> §23. Absence wheat and rice in the RV

> §24. RV class society and the Indus civilization

> §25. The SarasvatI and dating of the RV and the brAhmaNas

> §26. Harappan fire rituals?

> §27. Cultural continuity: pottery and the Indus script

>

> VEDIC TEXTS AND SCIENCE

>

> §28. The ''astronomical code of the RV''

> §29. Astronomy: the equinoxes in ZB

> §30. Astronomy: jyotiSa vedAGga and the solstices

> §31. Geometry: zulba sUtras

>

> SUMMARY

>

> §32. The autochthonous theory

>

>

----

----------

> -------

>

> The preliminary (email) version is now also available at my website

>

> http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/EJVS-7-3.htm

>

> It will be put on the EJVS website in the next few days

>

> http://nautilus.shore.net/~india/ejvs/

>

> In the next few weeks a version with proper diacritics (pdf etc.)

will follow.

>

>

> Cheers, MW

>

> ========================================================

> Michael Witzel

> Department of Sanskrit & Indian Studies, Harvard University

> 2 Divinity Avenue, Cambridge MA 02138, USA

>

> ph. 1- 617-496 2990 (also messages)

> home page: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm

>

> Elect. Journ. of Vedic Studies:

http://nautilus.shore.net/~india/ejvs/

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INDOLOGY, Michael Witzel <witzel@f...> wrote:

...> Autochthonous Aryans?

> The Evidence from Old Indian and Iranian Texts.

...

> INTRODUCTION

>

> §1. Terminology

> § 2. Texts

> § 3. Dates

> §4. Indo-Aryans in the RV

> §5. Irano-Aryans in the Avesta

> §6. The Indo-Iranians

> §7. An ''Aryan'' Race?

> §8. Immigration

> §9. Remembrance of immigration

> §10. Linguistic and cultural acculturation

 

There are substantial grounds to reject the

mono-lateral conclusions arrived at in Section 5 Irano-Aryans in the

Avesta of this article by Prof. Witzel.

 

Here they are:

http://sarasvati.simplenet.com/avestan01.htm

Please reload to see the update with a section

captioned: Common foundation of Vedic > Avestan traditions

 

There are many concordances between Vedic and Avestan

and almost all point to Vedic > Avestan chronology on the grounds of

both linguistics and semantics. In many cases, Avestan texts point to

a separation only in the days of the Bra_hman.a-s.

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