Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 - Bhakti Ananda E.O.H.N. indology Friday, June 08, 2001 8:54 AM Fw: Catholic - Vaishnava connections in history...B.A. Goswami - Bhakti Ananda E.O.H.N. vediculture Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:25 PM Fw: Catholic - Vaishnava connections in history...B.A. Goswami - Bhakti Ananda E.O.H.N. Madhudvisa dasa Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:04 PM Re: Catholic - Vaishnava connections in history...B.A. Goswami HARE KRISHNA ! Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga ki jaya ! Please accept my humble obeisances. I would like to submit a short article on the historical and theological identity of Godhead from the perspective of ancient Alexandrian (Egyptian) Proto-Catholic Inter-racial Judaism. The following is copyright Pentecost Sunday, 2001 by H.H. Bhakti Ananda Goswami and MAY BE REPRINTED IN WHOLE WITHOUT ADDITIONS OR ALTERATIONS AND INCLUDING THIS COPYRIGHT NOTICE AND MY EMAIL bhakti.eohn (AT) verizon (DOT) net and address BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI PO BOX 213, MYRTLE POINT OREGON, 97458 USA "AHAM...ASMI...OM" / " EGO EIMI o ON" Hari / Eli in the Bhagavad-gita and the Bible The Greek version of the Jewish Scriptures was once the most used, most prominent version. It was translated from Hebrew, according to sacred tradition, by the greatest Jewish TSADDIKS (Sadhakas, Sadhus) of the time. This occurred with miraculous divine assistance at the Temple-Library of Serapis (ELI-HABA, HOR-HAP, HARYAPPA ) in Alexandria. Accepted by Jews throughout the ancient world, this Scripture gives us a unique window into inclusive, inter-national Judaism in the centuries just before the appearance of Jesus Christ. In fact, it is this SEPTUAGINT version of the 'Old Testamant' and Apocrypha that was used by Lord Jesus Christ and His disciples. Thus it was also the version used by the Greek speakers of the early Catholic Church. Since the Greek of this scripture is closely related to Sanskrit, in the 1960s I decided to study it carefully as part of my comparison between the Judeo-Catholic and Vaishnava Traditions. What I found is stunning. The Greek-Jewish names of God, specific religious terms, and literally hundreds of major and minor connections to Vaishnavism pervade the entire Text. Most amazing of all, the Greek translation of God's Self-revelation in the Exodus story is directly 'cognate' with, or linguistically related to Krishna's words of Self-revelation in the Gita ! In Exodus 3.14 Eli-YHVH says "EGO EIMI o ON" / I AM BEING (Hebrew I AM WHO AM / YHVH) . All 'Indo-European' Linguists agree that 'EGO' is cognate with AHAM, and EIMI is cognate with ASMI. ON or AUN is the ancient name of God as 'BEING' associated with HERI-AMUN at the Egyptian HERI / ELI Capital City of Heliopolis. It is Heliopolitan Tradition that is later revived at the Temple of Serapis at Alexandria. So, it is impossible that the Jewish Elders there would not have understood the implication of their choice of words for translating the Divine Self-revelation. Actually, according to tradition, they were all divinely inspired in their choice of words, this choice being communicated to each one of them individually by the Holy Spirit. Thus in the East and West, the central Theophanies of the Two Scriptures, the GITA and the BIBLE are both revelations of the SAME DEITY. In both Texts He manifests His wrathful Form as Time [KALAH], and is the Patron Form of the cosmic time-keeping 'gods' [MAZAL TOV / ELOHIMA], and the Earthly ELYM / ARYAN armies of God. In response to Moses' request to identify Himself, Eli-Yahu [HELI-US, HERI-ASU] replies "EGO EIMI o ON". In response to Arjuna's request to identify Himself HARI-VASU replies "AHAM...ASMI...OM" in the great I AM verses of the Gita. Thus Godhead's Personal Self-revelation as the GREAT I AM stands against impersonalism and atheism in the Scriptures of both the East and West. Searching every possible ancient source for icons of the God of Exodus, I quickly discovered that as TIME, and Patron of the Jewish Kshatriya Royalty and Armies, He was 'leontocephalous' (lion-headed), a Form very familiar to western art historians. His Lion-Headed and related VAISHNAVA FORMS appeared for centuries on both Jewish and Egyptian artifacts, including the official religious State Seals of the Jewish Kingdoms of both Israel and Judah. However, His Wrathful Form was not considered His 'Original' Form. What did the Jews believe His Original Form to look like? This is also answered in the Greek Jewish-Catholic Bible, in the Song of Solomon, where God's beautiful Youthful Form [KRISHNA] as the LOVER of Shekinah [sHAKTI] / the feminine 'Soul' is described, and in the Second Book of Machabees, Chapter 3, where GOD (singular) appears in the Temple of Jerusalem first as a GOLD ARMOURED RIDER [KALKI] on a white horse, and then as TWO BEAUTIFUL YOUTHS [KRISHNA and BALARAMA]. The 2 Machabees story revolves around the sin, Divine chastisement and miraculous conversion of a Greek Seleucid Ambassador named Heliodorus. It ends with his VOW to God, and return to the Seleucid Emperor. Other (extra Biblical) sources later implicated this same Heliodorus in a plot to kill the Emperor. It is thus clear that there was such a man, who played a significant role in the history of the time. During this same general period in India, a man named Heliodorus, of the same office / rank, had a famous votive column TO KRISHNA erected in his name. Such offerings were common in fulfillment of religious vows (thus 'votive' offerings) at that time. This same column has survived to the present, and is one of the primary pieces of evidence used to prove the existance of Krishna-Balarama worship in the Pre-Christian Era ! Thus, a Greek Ambassador named Heliodorus figures prominently in both the Biblical and Vaishnava History of that time. Whether one takes these stories as real or 'legendary' there is obviously still some connection. If we doubt that there was much real connection or contact between India and Jerusalem at that time, again the Greek Jewish-Catholic Bible has the answer. The post-Alexandrine Seleucid Emperors reigned from North West India to North Africa. There was tremendous interaction between India and Judea during this period. For example, there are entire Indian units of Elephants and their foot-soldiers described as fighting under the Seleucid Emperor in Jerusalem in the First Book of Machabees, Chapter 6. Indian Elephant units FROM INDIA, WITH INDIAN TROOPS, LED BY INDIAN OFFICERS, WERE COMMONLY USED THROUGHOUT THE EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN REGION IN THE CENTURIES JUST BEFORE THE ADVENT OF CHRIST. This is only one example of the complete integration of levantine and Indian History which characterized that entire period. The Ascetic Jews, Greeks, Egyptians, Romans and other Monotheists of the region all worshiped Krishna-Vishnu and Their Holy Spirit, in unity with Their Feminine Shekinah, or Shakti. The regional mystical center of this worship was on the Sacred Isle of RHODES where the ORIGINAL FORMS OF ELI AND SHEKINAH WERE WORSHIPED AS KOUROS AND RHODA / KRISHNA AND RADHA. This worship is Pre-historic on Rhodes, and was shared by Indo-Europeans, Africans and Semites. It was foundational to ALL High Civilization throughout the Region. KOUROS-ELI's FIRST EXPANSION BAL-YAHU-THEOS / BALARAM AS VASU-DEVA, or VISHNU, was considered the ORIGINAL SPIRITUAL MASTER, UNIVERSAL SAVIOR / COSMIC SACRIFICE (RIG VEDIC PURUSHA / POLIEUS), HIEROPHANT and INITIATOR INTO ALL THE MYSTERIES OF THE DIVINE. IT IS THE TRADITION OF YAHU-BAL THAT WAS PROMINENT IN ALEXANDRIA, AND WHICH EVOLVED INTO COPTIC CATHOLIC CHRISTIANITY WITH THE COMING OF JESUS CHRIST. The specific Form of SERAPIS (the Greek ASKLEPIUS and Semitic ESHMUN), as the GREAT PHYSICIAN, was BALARAMA AS ANANTA-CHARAKA the AYUR VEDIC DEITY. The entire Tradition of JESUS CHRIST IS THUS THE SERAPEAN TRADITION OF ANANTA-BALARAMA. The Serapean and earlier Heliopolitan Asyla (Temple) Polis (Polieus=Purusha) Alliances were all inter-racial federations of the region's indigenous forms of Vaishnavism, Shaivism and Devi worship, all ultimately derived from the 'original' tradition of 'Bridal Mysticism', the revelation of God as Lover and Beloved, Kouros and Rhoda / Krishna and Radha. This is why the worship of Radha-Krishna still remains at the 'Bridal Mysticism' heart of the Judeo-Catholic, and even Sufi Islamic Traditions. The Druze and countless other regional forms of Vaishnavism were not ultimately due to some late diffusion from India, but were natural indigenous developments of the primal Revelatory Faith shared by all humanity. The evidence amassed in recent decades by linguists studying the Nostratic Linguistic Macrofamily, 100% supports my independent findings, regarding the inter-racial Names of God, in the 1960s. Many important Names of God in African, Semitic, Indo-European and other languages are all names of Krishna-Vishnu. I have carefully searched-out the related Forms, stories, rituals, doctrines etc. associated with these Holy Names, and they are all Vaishnava. Unfortunately, due to extreme 'Hindu' prejudice against the Judeo-Christian Traditions, I have had little or no encouragement or support for my research from certain exclusivistic Vaishnava leaders. Thus, after 30 years of unsuccessfully trying to interest them in this information, I am now attempting to take it directly to the rank-&-file mass of devotees and to the general public. I have amassed about 150 volumns worth of evidence that Krishna is the God of the Western Traditions, but because of hatred for these Traditions, I have not yet been able to get any other Vaishnava leaders to help me to get this information out. 'The truth will out'. It cannot be suppressed for ever. In fact, the Judeo-Catholic evidence I have amassed proves beyond any doubt the antiquity and supremacy of Radha-Krishna, Shakti-Balarama, and jiva-Paramatma worship globally. Thus Vaishnavas in particular, and Hindus in general should welcome this evidence as it suppots the idea of a once 'Global Vedic Culture'. This global worship of HARI-VASU and PARAMATMA is the historical and theological basis for a Vaishnava non-sectarian mission to 'revive' the 'Krishna Consciousness' of all humanity. The Vaishnava Triune Godhead of Krishna-Balarama (Vishnu) and Paramatma is not 'exotic' to any race, but rather is the Supreme Godhead of the entire human race. This is why the Triune Godhead's worship is INDIGENOUS EVERYWHERE. Thus our mission is to REVIVE not CONVERT the faith of the bhaktas/bhaktins of the entire world. Only sectarian pride and prejudice has prevented us all from knowing this profound truth. Krishna has been 'hiding in plain sight' all these centuries, waitng for us to rise above our petty ethno-centric etc. pride, to recognize His Fatherhood of all humanity. Prejudice has bi-furcated the human race, severing us with the illusory lies of Judeo-Christian versus Hindu Triumphalism. God's Truth humbles all and unites all. There is only One Supreme Godhead of both global history and theology. It is time to rend the veil of ego & ethno-centrism's hateful, divisive illusions, (masquerading as religious fidelity) and to acknowledge our ONE GODHEAD, EAST AND WEST. Amen / Aum and HARE KRISHNA ! your aspiring servant, Tridandi Sannyasi Bhakti Ananda Goswami - Madhudvisa dasa Bhakti Ananda E.O.H.N. Tuesday, May 29, 2001 4:50 PM Re: Catholic - Vaishnava connections in history...B.A. Goswami Dear Maharaja Thank you for your reply. We found your input very interesting. If you would like to write an article for Krishna.org we will post it. If you have any pictures to go with the article could you please send them also? Looking forward to hearing from you again. Chant Hare Krishna and be happy! Madhavananada dasa - Bhakti Ananda E.O.H.N. madhudvisa (AT) krishna (DOT) org Saturday, May 26, 2001 3:52 AM Catholic - Vaishnava connections in history...B.A. Goswami HARE KRISHNA ! Please accept my humble obeisances. My name is Bhakti Ananda Goswami. I am a non-Iskcon sannyasi in the line of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami. I am also a 'practicing' Catholic hermit (under 'private' vows). This is my first visit to your site. I am very interested in contacting the priests, or other catholics (active or inactive) mentioned on your site. You write respectfully of Lord Jesus. If you really desire to know the truth about the historical and theological relationship between Vaishnavism and the Judeo-Catholic traditions, i have information that will answer your questions. We are working on a web site at present, but it will probably be several more months before it is up. In the meantime, i am sending information to inoffensive persons on a limited basis. So far i have not seen anything objectionable on your site, so i would like to send you some information if you are interested. For over 30 years i have focused my interdisciplinary research on the history and theology of global bhakti (devotional, primarily monotheistic) traditions. I have amassed about 150 volumes worth of evidence (unpublished) that Krishna, Balarama and Paramatma are the 3 Persons of the Primal Trinity worshiped by all humanity. The worship of this Trinity is always connected to the veneration of corrosponding forms of Shakti. This one global tradition did not diffuse out of India from an 'Aryan race' into other racial groups. It is, rather, the indigenous faith of all humanity. ( See 'Nostratic Super Family' language studies on the internet...these have now confirmed my own discoveries in the 1960s.) HARI IS THE PRIMAL DEITY Thus, at the dawn of civilization in Africa, we see the Supreme Lord is HERI in the Nilo-Saharan Languages, and OLU, ALE, ORI etc. in the Nigerian famly of languages. In Sumeria the Supreme God is ILU. Also in Chaldean He is URI / ORI and in the West Semitic (including Hebrew and Aramaic) He is ELI, ALI, URI, ORI, ARI etc. In Europe He is HELI, SOLE etc. In the ancient kingdom of Mittanni, He was called HURRI. The so-called 'gods' of the Semites, Egyptians and Europeans were ALL CALLED ELOHIMA, which is the plural form of ELI and means 'of-from-or-related-to ELI' . The Hebrew term for devotees of ELI was ELYM, which is directly ARYAN, and means (like ELOHIM) someone of-from-or-related-to the Deity ELI (HARI). 'Aryan' was thus not a racial term, but a religious term, like ELYM, SURA GANA, SOLANA, SYRIAN, ERIN, HARI JANA, HELLENE, or HURRIAN. ELI-YAHU is the Biblical Deity. YAHU was called BALU before the Hyksos abomination in Egypt and the Levant. BALU as TOBAYAHU is ELI's First Expansion, Brother / Alter-form or 'Son' (in Salvific Lila). Eli is Hari and Toba-yahu is VASUDEVA. Vasudeva (a name of Vishnu) is the Mula Mantra of Balarama. BALU-YAHU's symbols and by-names are all those of BALARAMA, VISHNU or SHIVA. The official religious state seals and amulets of the ruling class in Israel and Judah contain VAISHNAVA RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS. Thousands of these have been found and analysed, but i am the only Vaishnava scholar that i know of to study them. The Jewish and Christian scholars can't understand why these Jewish Artifacts are covered with such strange icons. Regional coins and temple foundation deposits etc... they all have Vaishnava Deity Names and Icons on them. These corrospond to Vaishnava Theophoric (GOD-bearing) personal names found throughout the Bible. Any Vaishnava seeing this evidence should immediately recognise their own symbol-system and Deity's Names in Judaism. The Jews and Christians need the Vaishnava perspective to understand this body of evidence that they have amassed. Thus, i am most eager to recruit Vaishnavas with a favorable attitude toward the Jewish and Catholic Traditions to assist me in establishing this new field of comparative studies. The 'Hindu' prejudice against Judaism and Christianity is so strong, that devotees gravitate to studying anti-authentic nonsense from so-called 'esoteric' sources. Thus they fill their minds with covered mayavadi poison, and never guess the nectar they are missing, through failure to study the history and theology of authentic Judeo-Catholic Sources. My work is 100% real-world 'first class' scholarship in authentic sourse materials. My evidence has not come from 'aliens' or 'ascended masters' or 'New Age' neo-gnostic 'esoteric' writers. I use only the best of undisputed evidence and academic sources. The difference is that i am able to understand the evidence, because it is all very familiar to me as a Vaishnava. Any unbiased Vaishnava scholar could understand the import of this evidence. If there are sincere Christians or Jews in your extended Vaishnava Community there, please give them my email address. I have JEWISH ICONS OF MATSYA, HARI ON SESHA, HARI ON GARUDA, NARAHARI and even Jewish-related Mediterranean Icons of RADHA and KRISHNA, VIRATA RUPA and many more to share. Because i am seriously disabled, i do not have the energy to respond to the merely curious, but if you know of anyone seriously interested in the ACTUAL ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY IN MEDITERRANEAN INDIGENOUS VAISHNAVISM, please have them contact me. bhakti.eohn (AT) verizon (DOT) net Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga ki jaya ! your aspiring servant, Tridandi Sannyasi Bhakti Ananda Goswami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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