Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 Since Mr. Thompson seems to uphold me as an example of a Hindu fanatic (strange that he does not have the courage to say so openly in public and court), let us see an application of Dr. Fosse's remarks to Indology and GT: INDOLOGY, Lars Martin Fosse <lmfosse@o...> wrote: > its emphasis on discipline, in its refusal to recognise the specific > character of minorities VA: GT and other 'mainstream' Indologists do not want to give the minority non-mainstreamers any breathing space. Calling them names, harassing them, and dismissing their work on grounds like 'no Univ outside India recognizes that...', or 'this view will not make it to the mainstream....' is an example of the mentality of the Indologists Lynch Mob. Although I wonder that if Indology itself is not mainstream in Academia, is it not illogical to talk of 'mainstream Indology'. Does anyone ever speak of the 'main torrent of a trickle from the tap'? ______________________ > definition, some of its policies (also adopted by the Hindu nationalist > movement in general) have clear parallels in Fascist states. VA: Many of Indologicy dogmas have CLEAR parallels in Nazi and Neo-Nazi literature. Not to mention that some Indologists did collaborate with hate mongering ideologues. That cannot be a reason to call Indologists as members of these categories in my considered opinion. _________________________ >The >most > important factor here is the victimisation of certain social groups, in the > case of India Muslims and Christians who are treated with active > intolerance and used as an "inner enemy" to rally the majority population. VA: Likewise, 'mainstream' Indologists gang up against 'upstarts' and 'revisionists' to maintain their dominance. Such minority members are disinvited from conferences, their papers are rejected in closely controlled 'peer reviewed' journals, they are called 'lunatic fringe', 'crooks and crazies', 'Hindu fanatics', 'Fascists', 'Racists', 'Hindu nationalists' and all kinds of names that occur in the frustrated minds of the 'mainstream' Indologists. ________________ > (But so far, no concentration camps have been built, which is an important > difference between India and Nazi Germany!) It should be noted, however, > that the definition of "Fascism" among scholars is unclear, there are in > fact several definitions, and it is possible that organisations such as the > RSS or the Shiv Sena might fall within some such definition. VA: That is the difference between Indology and Nazism as well - that no concentration camps with gas chambers have been built. Of course, the lives of non-conforming 'revisionists' is made miserable if they stay in academia and eventually they suffer great mental harassment. _____________________ > 2. Fanaticism > > A fanatic is a person who a) does not brook any opposition to his or her > views ("I am absolutely right always"), b) acts aggressively and invasively > to spread his or her conviction, and c) is intolerant of other convictions > ("they have no right to be here"). VA: I agree. This includes verbal violence, attacks and accusations, abusive remarks, name-calling, expulsion from moderated lists, parading of prejudiced opinions as objective research, condescending remarks, free for all opinions on matters pertaining to India beyond one's competence - behavior that is so common in mainstream Indologists. _________________ >Fanatics are obsessive and often > violent, or they readily accept violence performed by others in the name of > the "cause". VA: The cause of 'standard paradgims of Indology' myst be upheld. Anyone who does not do so will be harassed, labelled a crook and crazy and subjected to a lot of verbal violence. If someone else does that violence, then the other birds of the same tree will sit quiet. Words like fraud, fantasy will be used very often. _______________ > > Outside these groups, you have people who share some of the views of the > groups mentioned above, but not all of them. Whether they should be termed > fanatics would depend upon the way they propagate their views as well as > the character of their view. VA: Outside Indology, Racists may to the same opinions. But that does not make the latter Indologists. _____________ >Honestly believing in the Out-of-India theory > does not automatically make you a fanatic. VA: Oh these little mercies! BTW, what if someone like me does not believe in OIT or AIT? Anyways, Professor Witzel will not agree with you if you look at his hit list in the Frontline article or his tolerant remarks against believers in OIT. ____ > > The remarks stated above also apply to Christian, Muslim, and Buddhist > fanatics. A fanatic is a fanatic, no matter what his or her creed >is. VA: It applies also to 'mainstream' Indologists. _________ > Yes, up to a point. All religious and political movements have a right to > regard themselves as "better" than others. VA: Likewise, all schools of thought in Academia are also prone to fall prey to this tendency. Even if the field is non-mainstream Academia like Indology. ___ > This is self-evident. However, in a democratic society, everything, > including religious views, may be open to criticism. Nothing is above > public debate. VA: You mean even mainstream Indology?? Anyways, it should be noted that Mr. Thompson has misconstrued my statement. While we are yet to see who the Hindu fanatics in this list are, we do have some information on who the members of the Eurocentric Indologist Lynch Mob are. I did not mean to say that he launched a crusade against Hindu fanatics at the conference in question. Regards Vishal Agarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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