Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 Dear Mr. Agarwal, I am deeply touched when I hear that you have plowed through hundreds of journals looking for papers written by me. Not finding any must have been heart-rending. But there it is: I haven't found any by you either. Probably not a great loss, but one never knows. You may have had your lucid moments. I am sorry that my thesis was such a hard read for your that you didn't get the point, but try a couple of times more. Often, things become clearer with a second or third reading. However, since it is obvious that we thoroughly despise each other, I think that it perhaps would be better if we simply stopped talking. Not only are we wasting each other's time, but from what I understand, we are also wasting the time of the other members of the list. And that is not nice. So this is my farewell letter to you! May you prosper in your own little world of evil fascists, racists and other nasty -ists, may you one fine day learn some manners, and may you achieve a modicum of intellectual moderation so that you can function among average punters. But on the other hand: why should you change? You are probably much more entertaining the way you are! All the best for the future, Cordially, Lars Martin Fosse Dr. art. Lars Martin Fosse Haugerudvn. 76, Leil. 114, 0674 Oslo Norway Phone: +47 22 32 12 19 Mobile phone: +47 90 91 91 45 Fax 1: +47 22 32 12 19 Fax 2: +47 85 02 12 50 (InFax) Email: lmfosse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Ah, what have we here but the grand melodramatic exit, expressing disdain for those with whom you cannot and will not engage in honest discourse. Let all those who wish to study Indology be aware that there is a difference between Indology and related subjects such as Egyptology. In Egyptology all those who could have spoken in defense of a viewpoint have long since disappeared. Indologists are finding out that such is not the case in India. Surprise, surprise there are actually homo erectus who are also homo sapiens still surviving in India and what is more they are articulate, knowledgeable and present devastatingly logical arguments. The days when MaxMueller could arbitrarily decide that the Vedas were written in 1500 BCE based on biblical arguments are long gone and such assertions will not go unchallenged anymore. To hide under the assertion that opponents should confine themselves to a "little world of evil fascists, racists and other nasty -ists" will convince nobody and is laughable coming from a continent where such eminent 'nasty- ists' were widely prevalent a scant 50 years ago. Kaushal INDOLOGY, Lars Martin Fosse <lmfosse@o...> wrote: > Dear Mr. Agarwal, > > I am deeply touched when I hear that you have plowed through hundreds of > journals looking for papers written by me. Not finding any must have been > heart-rending. But there it is: I haven't found any by you either. Probably > not a great loss, but one never knows. You may have had your lucid moments. > I am sorry that my thesis was such a hard read for your that you didn't get > the point, but try a couple of times more. Often, things become clearer > with a second or third reading. > > However, since it is obvious that we thoroughly despise each other, I think > that it perhaps would be better if we simply stopped talking. Not only are > we wasting each other's time, but from what I understand, we are also > wasting the time of the other members of the list. And that is not nice. So > this is my farewell letter to you! May you prosper in your own little world > of evil fascists, racists and other nasty -ists, may you one fine day learn > some manners, and may you achieve a modicum of intellectual moderation so > that you can function among average punters. > > But on the other hand: why should you change? You are probably much more > entertaining the way you are! > > All the best for the future, > > Cordially, Lars Martin Fosse > > Dr. art. Lars Martin Fosse > Haugerudvn. 76, Leil. 114, > 0674 Oslo > Norway > Phone: +47 22 32 12 19 > Mobile phone: +47 90 91 91 45 > Fax 1: +47 22 32 12 19 > Fax 2: +47 85 02 12 50 (InFax) > Email: lmfosse@o... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 INDOLOGY, Lars Martin Fosse <lmfosse@o...> wrote: > Dear Mr. Agarwal, > > I haven't found any by you either. VA: I do not publish in professional Indological journals nor do I have scholarly pretentions like you. Moreover, when did I claim that I am a professional Indologist? I am interested in publishing only on the net so that it is accessible freely and easily and for a number of other reasons that have been explained elsewhere a number of times. You can check the following URL once a month for updates: http://www.voi.org/vishal_agarwal/homepage.html FYI, I currently have 92 other biographies in various stages of preparation, and about 25 webpages on various aspects of Indian philosophy (for beginners) in collaboration with others. Besides, dozens of webpages on various aspects of Vedic literature. All this will take several years to appear slowly. > I am sorry that my thesis was such a hard read for your that you didn't get > the point, but try a couple of times more. Often, things become clearer > with a second or third reading. VA: Perhaps you are unaware that you are talking to a professionally trained statistician. I actually train people in inferential statistics. I took up your thesis precisely because it was closely related to my area of professional competence. While your methodology is elegant and rigorous (and certainly a signficant advance over the previous works that I had read), haven't you yourself admitted in the introduction that the thesis does not have a real positive conclusion (memory might have failed me and I will need to check)? But nevertheless, anyone can read your work. It is not necessarily your fault but is most likely due to the nature of the data itself. One hardly sees any 'statistical study' of Indic texts which is perfect. BTW, I would really appreciate a list of your publications in reputed (or non-reputed) journals. The reason is stated above. Actually, I would appreciate some references (by any author) on application of statistics to linguistics. Rest is not worthy of comment. Sincerely, Vishal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 INDOLOGY, Lars Martin Fosse <lmfosse@o...> wrote: >... May you prosper in your own little world > of evil fascists, racists and other nasty -ists, may you one fine day learn > some manners, and may you achieve a modicum of intellectual moderation so > that you can function among average punters.> > But on the other hand: why should you change? You are probably much more > entertaining the way you are!> > All the best for the future,> > Cordially, Lars Martin Fosse Is it difficult to see the hypocrisy in these statements? It ain't a cordial farewell, the stated wishes are just empty. The wishes are clearly offered to wish the adieu-ed person to be in the midst of ill-perceived 'evil' f-s, r-s and other -ists, all apparently non-cordial epithets. These comments would not have been necessary if the adieu was not bid on the list for all 350 odd members to read. Hopefully, not all members of the list should endorse such statements; there may be some who wouldn't, see how rapidly Witzel approved of Thomson's statements (which required elaborate explanations later)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 02:05:17AM +0000, kaushal42 wrote: > I should be gratified. The great Her Professor Doktor Weitzel has > deigned to address me. Let us see what he has to say on the matter; [snip] Now the rest had sat down, and were orderly in their places, but one man, Thersites of the endless speech, still scolded, who knew within his head many words, but disorderly; vain, and without decency, to quarrel with the princes with any word he thought might be amusing to the Argives. I would be delighted if you would pay close attention to this passage from the Iliad. It seems to me that your invective is pointless and misplaced. It contributes little of value, and amuses no one but yourself. Please, in all decency, rein yourself in. Many regards, Richard Mahoney -- /"\ ------------------- Richard B Mahoney ----------------------- \ / ASCII 78 Jeffreys Rd +64-3-351-5831 X Ribbon Campaign Christchurch New Zealand / \ ----------- rbm49 --------------- ++ http://www.freebsd.org/ ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Note that I did not initiate this latest round of invective. The accusations of being 'fascists, racists, nasty-ists ' was not made by me. It did not amuse me either , as I am certain it was not intended to. So I hope you will address your remarks to them. If i recall the Illiad glorifies a war that was fought for even less. Kaushal INDOLOGY, Richard B Mahoney <rbm49@s...> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 02:05:17AM +0000, kaushal42@n... wrote: > > > I should be gratified. The great Her Professor Doktor Weitzel has > > deigned to address me. Let us see what he has to say on the matter; > > [snip] > > > Now the rest had sat down, and were orderly in their places, > but one man, Thersites of the endless speech, still scolded, > who knew within his head many words, but disorderly; vain, > and without decency, to quarrel with the princes with any > word he thought might be amusing to the Argives. > > > I would be delighted if you would pay close attention to this > passage from the Iliad. It seems to me that your invective is > pointless and misplaced. It contributes little of value, and > amuses no one but yourself. Please, in all decency, rein > yourself in. > > > Many regards, > > Richard Mahoney > > > -- > /"\ ------------------- Richard B Mahoney ----------------------- > \ / ASCII 78 Jeffreys Rd +64-3-351-5831 > X Ribbon Campaign Christchurch New Zealand > / \ ----------- rbm49@c... --------------- > ++ http://www.freebsd.org/ ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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