Guest guest Posted June 14, 2001 Report Share Posted June 14, 2001 INDOLOGY, Lars Martin Fosse <lmfosse@o...> wrote: The sociological > studies I have seen on this seem to indicate a clear upper caste dominance > in *leading* positions within the Hindutva movement. It is tempting to see > Hindutva caste politics as a variety of the electoral mathematics that are > so common in Indian politics. VA: That is true of other parties as well. Eg. Communists - Namboodiripaad, Geeta Mukherjee, Indrajit Gupta, Buddhadeva Bhattacharya, ....Not to mention that the Marxist Historians/Sociologists are typically Brahmins or other upper castes - R S Sharma, D N Jha, Romila Thapar etc. etc. Congress: Sitraram Kesari, Sonia Gandhi and other Gandhis/Nehrus, Gulzarilal Nanda, Shastri, Pawar (not out), so many Jhas, Misras, Singhs, Guptas, Agarwals (including my grandfather) etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2001 Report Share Posted June 14, 2001 Dear Professor Fosse, I had written to Vishal Agrawal a couple days back to gain his attention. Now I beg your attention. Your various observations on Indian politics have little to do with the purported mission of this list. These can go to a political forum and should be rightly debated over. What you have is only a part of the political mosaic and sorry to say, very cursory. Can we restrain ourselves from making unrequired "political" flame remarks? Indologist, honestly, comes out a strange breed from these postings. It must not be so. Best regards, Bijoy Misra On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Lars Martin Fosse wrote: > vsundaresan [sMTP:vsundaresan] skrev 13. juni 2001 > 23:20: > > While on the subject, note that the Hindutva organizations accept > > people of all castes, whereas more traditional Hindus do not. The > > Hindutvavadins are not doing this to gain credibility in the eyes > > of scholars. They are doing it because they believe that caste can > > be denied in a Hindutva reality. In the midst of unsavory politics, > > scholars tend to ignore contemporary social realities. Although I > > should think that politics and society go hand in hand. > > I believe this is true up to a point. However, we have to wait and see how > much substance there is in this, and how much is rhetoric. The sociological > studies I have seen on this seem to indicate a clear upper caste dominance > in *leading* positions within the Hindutva movement. It is tempting to see > Hindutva caste politics as a variety of the electoral mathematics that are > so common in Indian politics. Some low-caste people get coopted, and a c > ertain amount of welfare is offered for the poor, at least in some states. > It is an interesting phenomenon, because if it is merely a ploy from > Hindutva leadership to win more votes and preserve upper caste hegemony, it > may come back later and bite them in the back. Whatever your real > intentions, you cannot reject caste and uphold it at the same time! > > Lars Martin > > > Dr. art. Lars Martin Fosse > Haugerudvn. 76, Leil. 114, > 0674 Oslo > Norway > Phone: +47 22 32 12 19 > Mobile phone: +47 90 91 91 45 > Fax 1: +47 22 32 12 19 > Fax 2: +47 85 02 12 50 (InFax) > Email: lmfosse > > > > > indology > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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