Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 On Wed Jun 20, 2001 6:11 pm, naga_ganesan@h... wrote: > [...] > Appreciations for info on any papers and books by Dr. Tieken, Dear Ganesan, Here's a reference to something I wrote many years back: Review of H. Tieken, _Sangam over helden en minnaars_. International Journal of Tamil Studies (Madras) 23 (1983), pp. 102-8. (This is so long ago that I do not recall all of what I wrote then. It concerns T.'s apparently first venture into the field Tamil literature, a Dutch translation of selected Sangam poems.) RZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 Thanks, Prof. Zydenbos, may be I'll have the jl. in a box. I got some info on Tieken's new book: CTamil/message/309 Reading from the theory of Tieken's book, I think it will be hard to hold on to ideas that tamil Krishna and skt. Krishna are different, or that sangam tamils lived in a caste-free, non-discriminating utopian society, uncorrupted by Aryanisms. Regards, N. Ganesan INDOLOGY, Robert Zydenbos <zydenbos@g...> wrote: > Here's a reference to something I wrote many years back: > > Review of H. Tieken, _Sangam over helden en minnaars_. International > Journal of Tamil Studies (Madras) 23 (1983), pp. 102-8. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 INDOLOGY, naga_ganesan@h... wrote: > An incomplete list of my publications may be found by searching on the internet (google) under the words Tieken Tamil. Unfortunately, the university registers only the publications of the last five years and also I am hopelessly behind in providing the information. Apart from that, my publications on Tamil are few, my main field being Sanskrit and Middle Indic. I have a question to ask: approximately 25 years ago I ordered Tamil books and publications from South India from Vacakarvattam/Bookventure. Some years ago, when I needed books from South India again, I ordered them through Gitanjali (Chennai), but communication with that firm has somehow stopped. Does anyone has experience with a firm in Tamilnadu where I could order books (and which charges Ruppe prices). Also I would like to know if and where the Cuvaminathaiyar editions of Cankam texts have been reprinted. I need them for the variant readings. I hope this forum may be used for bibliographical informations, for in this fieled South India lags behing the North, where there are large forms like Motilal Banarsidass. Herman Tieken Instituut Kern University of Leiden P.O.B. 9515 2300 RA Leiden The Netherlands > Need the details of the recent book: > Herman Tieken, kAvya in south India: old Tamil sankam poetry. > (This can be studied along with recent books by M. A. Selby (OUP), > A. M. Dubianski.) > > Saw some titles by H. Tieken, > > 1) Tieken, Herman > Hala's Sattasai : stemma and edition (Gathas 1-50) : with > translation and notes. Utrecht, The Netherlands : > Rijksuniversiteit te Utrecht?, 1983. > > 2) H. Tieken, Text and performance in Sanskrit drama, > in Theatre intercontinental : forms, functions, correspondences, 1993 > > Appreciations for info on any papers and books by Dr. Tieken, > N. Ganesan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 INDOLOGY, HJHTieken@l... wrote: > An incomplete list of my publications may be found by searching on > the internet (google) under the words Tieken Tamil. > Unfortunately, the university registers only the publications of the > last five years and also I am hopelessly behind in providing the > information. > Apart from that, my publications on Tamil are few, my main field > being Sanskrit and Middle Indic. > > I have a question to ask: approximately 25 years ago I ordered Tamil > books and publications from South India from > Vacakarvattam/Bookventure. Thanks, Dr. Tieken for your answer. 1) I'm interested in Tamil and South Indian culturescape bibliography. For more than a decade, have given ref.s to Tamilists. I've done this from time to time even in the Indology list for yeras too. 2) vAcakar vaTTam, was run by Smt. Lakshmi Krishnamurti, daughter of the Freedom fighter, Sri. Satyamurti, Thiru. K. Kamaraj's mentor. Will check the letters from them for the address. 3) A help: 2-3 years ago, a scholar from Kern institute sent a mail to me that more kAraikkAl ammaiyAr statues (usually at the feet of Nataraja) have been found. He wrote after reading my message (possibly in soc.culture.tamil) with a list of ref.s on kAraikkAl ammai in SE Asia. Will be grateful if the name & email can be given. 4) Once Thomas Malten had asked the same about how to order Tamil books from Chennai: Try http://www.tamilnool.com This is from KaantaLakam, if you send an eamil with a list of books you need, they may send them to you. A tamil font is provided at the site, and needs to be installed. 5) U. V. Swaminathaiyar's books are reprinted in his library, situated in the famous Kalakshetra dance school campus Adayar, Chennai. 6) PuLLi in Tamil: CTamil/message/311 Regards, N. Ganesan N. Ganesan wrote earlier: > > Need the details of the recent book: > > Herman Tieken, kAvya in south India: old Tamil sankam poetry. > > (This can be studied along with recent books by M. A. Selby (OUP), > > A. M. Dubianski.) > > > > Saw some titles by H. Tieken, > > > > 1) Tieken, Herman > > Hala's Sattasai : stemma and edition (Gathas 1-50) : with > > translation and notes. Utrecht, The Netherlands : > > Rijksuniversiteit te Utrecht?, 1983. > > > > 2) H. Tieken, Text and performance in Sanskrit drama, > > in Theatre intercontinental : forms, functions, correspondences, > 1993 > > > > Appreciations for info on any papers and books by Dr. Tieken, > > N. Ganesan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 INDOLOGY, HJHTieken@l... wrote: > Does anyone has > experience with a firm in Tamilnadu where I could order books (and > which charges Ruppe prices). > Also I would like to know if and where the Cuvaminathaiyar editions > of Cankam texts have been reprinted. I need them for the variant > readings. > I hope this forum may be used for bibliographical informations, for > in this fieled South India lags behing the North, where there are > large forms like Motilal Banarsidass. Unfortunately, this lagging has been detrimental for research into Tamil and South Indian history. There are virtually no publishers for academic books. Universities like Madras, Madurai, Tamil u. at Tanjore do not publish any book for several years now. Of course, late 19th century or early 20th century books in tamil never get reprinted. Because of pathetic condition of libraries, any book printed in 1960s or 1970s is hard to see in India, and no grand bibliographis of Tamil books exist in India what we have is British museum catalogs (Pope, Barnett, A. Gaur) - that's all and they are incomplete. No index of good academic journal articles in Tamil either. Good stalapurANams running into 1000s will perish due to brittle acid paper and many unread from palmleaves. The pundits, trained in old style to read Tamil from mss. and monolingual and immersed in tamil scholastic tradition are less than 15 or 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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