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Dear list members,

 

Can anyone explain the difference in meaning between the two sanskrit words

hetu and hetutA preferably with a couple of simple sanskrit sentences that

clearly illustrate when you would use one and when the other.

 

Many thanks,

 

Harry Spier

371 Brickman Rd.

Hurleyville, New York

USA 12747

 

 

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The difference between hetu and hetutaa/hetutva would be analogous to

the difference between v.rk.sa and v.rk.sataa/tva. The distinctive

usage of hetu and hetutaa/tva, and kaara.na and kaara.nataa/tva is to

be expected generally in the Nyaaya works and works of other system

that have adopted Nyaaya and Navyanyaaya terminology. While one can

say that each instance of cause or reason may be referred to by the

term hetu/kaara.na, the term hetutaa/tva would refer to the generic

property of causeness/reasonness shared by all instances of

cause/reason. There is some discussion of such terminological usages

in the introduction to my book The Meaning of Nouns, published by

Kluwer Academic Publishers.

 

Madhav Deshpande

 

INDOLOGY, "Harry Spier" <harryspier@H...> wrote:

> Dear list members,

>

> Can anyone explain the difference in meaning between the two

sanskrit words

> hetu and hetutA preferably with a couple of simple sanskrit

sentences that

> clearly illustrate when you would use one and when the other.

>

> Many thanks,

>

> Harry Spier

> 371 Brickman Rd.

> Hurleyville, New York

> USA 12747

>

>

> _______________

> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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INDOLOGY, mmdesh@U... wrote:

> The difference between hetu and hetutaa/hetutva would be

>analogous to the difference between v.rk.sa and v.rk.sataa/tva.

>The distinctive usage of hetu and hetutaa/tva, and kaara.na and

>kaara.nataa/tva is to be expected generally in the Nyaaya works

>and works of other system that have adopted Nyaaya and Navyanyaaya

>terminology. While one can say that each instance of cause or

>reason may be referred to by the term hetu/kaara.na, the term

>hetutaa/tva would refer to the generic property of

>causeness/reasonness shared by all instances of cause/reason.

>There is some discussion of such terminological usages

> in the introduction to my book The Meaning of Nouns, published by

> Kluwer Academic Publishers.

>

 

Dear Prof. Madhav and the list,

 

I read in Indology @ Liverpool archives from prof. Bh. Krishnamurti

that from RV onwards grammatical phenomena like -tvA, iti have

been borrowed from dravidian.

 

Any suggested references for learning about the effects

of drav. in sanskrit?

 

Thanks,

N. Ganesan

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What Krishnamurti and others have argued is that the use of -tvA in

Sanskrit gerund forms lika gatvA and the use of quotative iti may be

indications of Dravidian influence. But this gerund affix -tvA

(historically an instrumental singular of a verbal noun ending in -

tu) is unrelated to the affix -tva added to nouns to produce abstract

nouns like tree-ness (v.rk.sa-tva). The other affix used to produce

abstract nouns is -tA (v.rk.sa-taa). I have not seen a suggestion

that these are also a result of Dravidian influence. In any case,

the philosophical usage has the distinctions I referred to. Best,

 

Madhav Deshpande

 

INDOLOGY, naga_ganesan@h... wrote:

> INDOLOGY, mmdesh@U... wrote:

> > The difference between hetu and hetutaa/hetutva would be

> >analogous to the difference between v.rk.sa and v.rk.sataa/tva.

> >The distinctive usage of hetu and hetutaa/tva, and kaara.na and

> >kaara.nataa/tva is to be expected generally in the Nyaaya works

> >and works of other system that have adopted Nyaaya and

Navyanyaaya

> >terminology. While one can say that each instance of cause or

> >reason may be referred to by the term hetu/kaara.na, the term

> >hetutaa/tva would refer to the generic property of

> >causeness/reasonness shared by all instances of cause/reason.

> >There is some discussion of such terminological usages

> > in the introduction to my book The Meaning of Nouns, published by

> > Kluwer Academic Publishers.

> >

>

> Dear Prof. Madhav and the list,

>

> I read in Indology @ Liverpool archives from prof. Bh. Krishnamurti

> that from RV onwards grammatical phenomena like -tvA, iti have

> been borrowed from dravidian.

>

> Any suggested references for learning about the effects

> of drav. in sanskrit?

>

> Thanks,

> N. Ganesan

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INDOLOGY, mmdesh@U... wrote:

> What Krishnamurti and others have argued is that the use of -tvA in

> Sanskrit gerund forms lika gatvA and the use of quotative iti may be

> indications of Dravidian influence. But this gerund affix -tvA

> (historically an instrumental singular of a verbal noun ending in -

> tu) is unrelated to the affix -tva added to nouns to produce

> abstract

> nouns like tree-ness (v.rk.sa-tva). The other affix used to produce

> abstract nouns is -tA (v.rk.sa-taa). I have not seen a suggestion

> that these are also a result of Dravidian influence. In any case,

> the philosophical usage has the distinctions I referred to. Best,

>

> Madhav Deshpande

 

Perhaps, the foll. dissertation may be of help:

Patrick E. Marlow, Origin and development of the Indo-Aryan

quotatives and complimentizers: an areal approach.

Univ. of California, Ph.D. diss., 1997.

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