Guest guest Posted November 3, 2001 Report Share Posted November 3, 2001 03/11/2001 Namo Vitragay I read somewhere about white caucasians, brown caucasians and black caucasians! What does the word "Caucasian" mean? In school we learnt about different races, there are the three basic races, 1. The caucasoids (white people) 2. The mongoloids (yellow people) 3. The negroids (black people) We Indians claim Aryan descent, but strictly speaking we are an admixture of all three basic races. Most Indians are a combination of the caucasoid and negroid race, while our brothers living in North - East India are of the mongoloid race. The percentage of influence of each race varies from region to region and person to person. Belonging to any race does not make a person greater or smaller! Nor does belonging to any country / continent or culture make a person greater or smaller. Whether we become great people or small people depends on our deeds. No one but we ourselves decide what direction our life should take. We are responsible for all our actions. Extraneous influences play a role, but ultimately we are accountable for all our thoughts, words and deeds. This is what Bhagwan Mahavir taught us. And this is what my common sense tells me. Yours in Ahinsa, Manish Modi Telephone: 91 22 3826739 Email: manish.modi "No one behind, no one ahead. The path the ancients cleared has closed. And the other path, everyone's path, easy and wide, goes nowhere. I am alone and find my way." - Dharmakeerti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 INDOLOGY, "Manish Modi" <manish.modi@b...> wrote: > 03/11/2001 > Namo Vitragay > > I read somewhere about white caucasians, brown caucasians > and black caucasians! What does the word "Caucasian" mean? The primary sense of Caucasian is "from, or pertaining to the Caucasus Mountains". The racial use of the word originated around 1800 with the ridiculous racial theories of a German physiologist named Johann Blumenbach who believed that the so-called white race originated in this region. His ideas were long ago rejected but the term caucasian used in this way has stuck, at least here in the U.S. I don't know how common this usage is elsewhere. It's comparable to the bad habit of calling the indigenous people of America "Indians" based on Columbus' mistaken belief that he had reached India. I'm not sure what's intended by "brown caucasian" or "black caucasian" but most classification systems include the Arabs, and some the Australian aboriginal people, in the Caucasoid category and so it includes a wide range of skin colors. This might be the origin of these terms, I don't know for sure. > In school we learnt about different races, there are the three > basic races, > 1. The caucasoids (white people) > 2. The mongoloids (yellow people) > 3. The negroids (black people) I prefer the terms "Europoid", "Asianoid" and "Africanoid". However it's questionable how accurate this three-way division is anyway. > We Indians claim Aryan descent, but strictly speaking we are an > admixture of all three basic races. Most Indians are a combination > of the caucasoid and negroid race, while our brothers living in > North - East India are of the mongoloid race. I think that if the truth were known we would find out that everyone on Earth has ancestors at somepoint in their lineage from each of these categories. Genetic studies prove that the entire human race is very closely related. A favorable genetic mutation anywhere in the world will soon (in evolutionary terms "soon") find it's way across the whole human gene pool. Also I don't think that Aryan, or better "ârya-", was originally a racial term but rather an ethno-cultural/linguistic designation. The Nazis badly misused this word and the more benign use of the it as a synonym of "Indo-European" is likewise inaccurate and is better avoided. Those archaeologically attested cultures that experts believe to have been the ancient Aryans were genetically or "racially" complex and varied from one area to another and from one time period to another. So it would be difficult to speak of there ever having been an "Aryan" race. > The percentage of influence of each race varies from region to > region and person to person. Belonging to any race does not make > a person greater or smaller! Nor does belonging to any country / > continent or culture make a person greater or smaller. > > Whether we become great people or small people depends on > our deeds. No one but we ourselves decide what direction our life > should take. We are responsible for all our actions. Extraneous > influences play a role, but ultimately we are accountable for all > our thoughts, words and deeds. This is what Bhagwan Mahavir > taught us. And this is what my common sense tells me. Well said and well worth repeating again and again! However unfortunately many individuals in this world don't or can't find a sense of self-worth in their own character and achievements and so look to their membership in a race, nation, religion, tribe, party or whatever. This is the ultimate source, I think, of such things as Nazism, colonialism, nationalism, racism, etc. and causes much grief for those who wish to engage in objective historical or anthropological study when their findings aren't perceived as flattering to those who consider themselves (rightly or wrongly) to be the modern representatives of, or heirs to, the traditions being studied. Though, of course, the misuse of their findings for political purposes is always regretable, and loathsome to a true scholar or scientist. -David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 INDOLOGY, "Manish Modi" <manish.modi@b...> wrote: > > I read somewhere about white caucasians, brown caucasians and black > caucasians! What does the word "Caucasian" mean? I have not heard of "brown" and "black" caucasians, but in American immigration circles there was (is?) in use a term "pigmented caucasian," which was used to classify Indians. My information is almost wholly anecdotal, but for what it's worth: there seems to have been a conflict in the States in the early part of the last century about immigration policy as it applied to Indians. The general immigration policy was not to admit (or to greatly restrict the entry of) persons of color (i.e. "non-caucasians"). Some Indians, however, basing themselves on (everyone's favorite) "Aryan invasion/migration" hypothesis, claimed to have Aryan blood and, thus, to be caucasians and worthy of admission to the US. There was, I hear, a conflict between the immigration officials on the West Coast, who wanted to classify Indians merely as "colored" and those on the East Coast who thought Indians should be treated differently than other "coloreds." Apparently, the East Coast school won, as the compromise term "pigmented caucasian" came into use. (If I remember correctly, Taraknath Das was influential in creating this compromise.) I expect it is no longer in use, but it continued in government usage at least until 30 years ago, as my father-in-law reports that he was classified as a "pigmented caucasian" when he came to the States in the late 1960s. Best, Christian Wedemeyer University of Copenhagen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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