Guest guest Posted December 11, 2001 Report Share Posted December 11, 2001 Bharat Gupt <abhinav vishalsagarwal <vishalagarwal Re: Fwd: Re: details of book (D.N. Jha, Cow) Fri, 07 Dec 2001 12:44:08 +0530 Dear Vishal, Thanks for forwarding me this mail from Indology list from which I have not received any mail for quite some time. May be the list is not active or they may have d me on their own. [Moderator's note: Dr. Gupt has apparently forgotten that he set his INDOLOGY preferences to "no mail." They have now been changed to suit his expressed desire to receive postings again by email.] Anyway, as Dr. Witzel has been so anxious to verify things from Dr.Jha, I feel the need to put the record straight. I am amused that Dr.Jha considers me a "great man" without having met me as per his memory. However the truth is that Dr.RS Sharma was invited to deliver a talk at my college and Dr.Jha accompanied him. In the discussion following the talk, some questions were put to Dr.Sharma by me about the state of Indian music in medieval period. I was interested in his understanding as I was those days reading the medieval histories for musicological research under the guidance of the famous musicologist Acharya KC Brihaspati. To my disappointment and to that of some other history faculty, Dr. Sharma dismissed the whole subject of patronage to musicians as a "feudal preoccupation". In the ensuing discussion, Dr. Jha commented that he listened to music becasue his idols Marx and Lenin loved music to which I retorted that he should listen to music for its own sake. As the proceedings of this lecture, delivered to the faculty of my College, were never published in print, Dr. Jha is free to deny or forget, whatever he said. Now after all these years, it is just one person's word against another, or shall we say of an 'eminent historian's' against that of a "great man". There is nothing to it more than that. I recall things becasue I had invited Sharma and Jha and arranged for the lecture, something slightly more than the usual academic routine. But what is still so amusing is that having no memory of having met me or the dialogue at the talk, Dr. Jha has concluded that I am fabricting lies. And even more than that, Dr. Witzel has called my mention of the dialogue at the lecture as baseless rumour, when we have amnesia on Dr.Jha's part and proper academic recollection on my side as I was anxious to hear about the subject from historians. Dr.Jha and many other historians perhaps have no interest in the history of music otherwise they might have condescended to attend many of my lectures in town and the univs over the last ten years. As for Dr.Jha's mission of spreading the word about beef eating in ancient India, I do recall how at the age of 16 I enjoyed shocking my grandmother by showing her the lines from Valmiki on how Rama killed a deer and served the roasted flesh to Sita. I have long grown out of that adolescent use of texts. But the Marxists are playing that adolscent politics for imagined political gains. They do not recognise and appreciate the rise of ahimsa as a moral and intellectual doctrine but paint it as a eco-political conflict between Brahminical meat guzzlers/livestock looters and the exploited cattle owning vaishyas who turned to Budhism/Jainism for respite. By showing the war of religious communities they wish to deconstruct religion itself. They highlight or suppress historical data selectively. They insist on blowing up the minor plunders by Jats and Sikhs but preach total suppression of the vast millennium long Islamic plunders (see my rebuttal to Harbans Mukhia, IExpress, no verbal report this time). In his mission, Dr.Jha is neither alone nor contrained, he has the vast backing of a major a political force. Should it be necessary, feel free to post this mail to any email group. regards, Bharat Gupt Associate Professor, Delhi University, PO Box 8518, Ashok Vihar, Delhi 110052 INDIA. mobile:9810077914 home phones 91+11+724 1490, fax/TEL 741-5658, email: bharatgupt homepage: http://personal.vsnl.com/bharatgupt _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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