Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Namaaz is Arabic in origin. Namaste is clearly Sanskrit / Prakrit in origin. Manish On Thursday 07 February 2002 20:31, naga_ganesan wrote: > Are the namAz, presumably from Farsi, > and namste, namaskAr in Sanskrit have common roots? > > Regards, > N. Ganesan > > > > > > > indology > > > > Your use of is subject to -- Yours in Ahinsa, Manish Modi HINDI GRANTH KARYALAY Booksellers and Publishers http://www.hindibooks.8m.com Hirabaug, C. P. Tank, Mumbai 400004, INDIA Telephone: 00 91 22 3826739 Email: manish.modi DILON KE RISHTE (Urdu Poetry) by Prem Dhawan Rs. 100.00 Ghazals that celebrate the warmth of love with a zest for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 namaaz 'prayer' is a (mod.) Persian word that can easily be derived from Pahlavi namAc [namaach --> namazh] and the related Avestan n@mah 'honoring, apportioning', Skt. namas Phl. namAc is of course from the Old Iranian root(s) nam 'to bow/apportion' (Bartholomae 1041, Horn 1040) . Several other loan forms from Pahlavi are seen in Kurdish, etc. And, as such, it is closely related to Vedic/Skt. nam, namas, namas + te. Both go back to Indo-Iranian *nam 'to apportion', and then to Indo-European *nem (as in Greek nem-oo 'to apportion', Gothic nim-an (German nehmen 'to take') and Latvian n'e,mu 'to take' . No taking from Arabic here (which has taken its own Persian loans). Give and Take, ever since the African Eve... MW ============= >Namaaz is Arabic in origin. >Namaste is clearly Sanskrit / Prakrit in origin. > >Manish > > >On Thursday 07 February 2002 20:31, naga_ganesan wrote: >> Are the namAz, presumably from Farsi, >> and namste, namaskAr in Sanskrit have common roots? >> >> Regards, >> N. Ganesan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> indology >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to > >-- >Yours in Ahinsa, > >Manish Modi > >HINDI GRANTH KARYALAY >Booksellers and Publishers >http://www.hindibooks.8m.com >Hirabaug, C. P. Tank, Mumbai 400004, INDIA >Telephone: 00 91 22 3826739 >Email: manish.modi > >DILON KE RISHTE (Urdu Poetry) by Prem Dhawan Rs. 100.00 >Ghazals that celebrate the warmth of love with a zest for life. > > > > > >indology > > > >Your use of is subject to ======================================================== Michael Witzel Department of Sanskrit & Indian Studies, Harvard University 2 Divinity Avenue, Cambridge MA 02138, USA ph. 1- 617-496 2990 (also messages) home page: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/mwpage.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Actually they do have common roots. Turkish, Persian and Urdu- speaking Muslims do use the Persian word 'namaz' in place of, or alongside the Arabic 'salah' or 'salat' to refer to the Muslim style of prayer, but it's not Arabic in origin. Cognates are found in Pahlavi and Avestan, so it is not only Indo-Aryan, but also common Indo- Iranian. Here are some definitions from online dictionaries: Pahlavi http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/indologie/lil/cpd-search.html namaz - reverence, prostration, prayer. namaz bordan - to pay homage. Avestan http://www.avesta.org/avdict/av5dctn.htm nemah'yâmahî [nemah'ya-] 5 (prs.) to worship (vn) nemangha [nemangh, nema, nemanghvañt] 10 (AI) n. veneration, reverence (AHM, Monna), prayer (Kr) (respect?); (N) reverent; duty (k297?) ... nemanghâ 9 (I, plN) ... nemanghô 6 (G) ... nemase-tê 10 (N) reverence to you, a salutation ... neme 6 (A?) nemô [nemangh] 68 (N) reverence to; (A) duty Sanskrit http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/indologie/tamil/mwd_search.html nam-, to bend or bow, to bow to, subject or submit one's self. namas, bow, obeisance, reverential salutation, adoration (by gesture or word). namas-kR, to utter a salutation, do homage. David INDOLOGY, Manish Modi <manish.modi@b...> wrote: > > Namaaz is Arabic in origin. > Namaste is clearly Sanskrit / Prakrit in origin. > > Manish > > On Thursday 07 February 2002 20:31, naga_ganesan wrote: > > > > Are the namAz, presumably from Farsi, > > and namste, namaskAr in Sanskrit have common roots? > > > > Regards, > > N. Ganesan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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