Fwd: [Y-Indology] Hindu gods and Buddha (On Mr. Malaiya's comments)

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Thanks.

 

Could you also give the dates all these sources were composed?

 

Ravindra

 

 

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>[Y-Indology] Hindu gods and Buddha (Re: On Mr. Malaiya's comments)

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>Ravindra Viswanath wrote:

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> > Agreed, but Buddha in place of Hindu gods? Buddha as an avatar?

> >That sounds far-fetched given the animosity between the buddhist

> >monks and their brahmana counterparts. In some tales, atleast, the

> >sculptors are said to have been hesitant to carve the Buddha where

> >they were used to carving Vishnu, Shiva or Ganesha.

>

>Let me quote some sources that are from the period before the word

>Hindu became common in India.

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>1. Brihatsamhiata of Varahamihira: pratimAlakshaNAdhyAyaH

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>While describing attributes of various images, he mentions these gods

>in order:

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>vishhNu

>haladhara

>brahmA and.h kumAra

>indra

>maheshvara

>buddha

>bhAskara

>yama, varuNa, kubera

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>Buddha is described as:

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>padmA.nkitakaracharaNaH prasannamUrtiH sunIchakeshashcha .

>padmAsanaupavishhTaH pitA iva jagato bhavati (bhavet.h) buddhaH ..

>

>A translation of the above verses was included by Al Beruni in his

>India, which was translated by Sachau as:

>

>"To the idol Jina, i.e. Buddha, give a face and limbs as beautiful as

>possible, make the lines in the palms of his hands and feet like a

>lotus, and represent him seated on a lotus; give him grey hair, and

>represent him with a placid expression, as if he were the father of

>creation."

>

>2. Amarakosha gives names of many gods. Here they are in order:

>

>Deities

>Some clans of deities

>Some demigods

>Antigods or titans

>Jina or Buddha

>Gautama Buddha

> Brahma

> Vishnu

> Vasudeva: Krishna's Father

> Balarama

> Kamadeva:

> Son of kamadeva

> Laxmi

>Krishna's equipment, Krishna's bow, mark, horses, Krishna's

>charioteer, minister, younger brother, Garuda: Krishna's vehicle

> Shiva, Shiva's braided hair, bow, attendants, divine mothers

> Shiva's wife Parvati

> Shiva's son Ganapati

> Shiva's son Kartikeya

> Shiva's vehicle: Nandi Bull

> Indra

> Indra's wife Shachi, Indra's horse, charioteer, son, garden, palace,

>son, Indra's vehicle: elephant, thunderbolt

> Divine river: Milky way, Golden mountain Meru

> Five divine trees

> Sanatkumara, divine doctors: ashvins, nymphs

> Divine musicians, Fire, Marine fire

> Flame, Spark, Burn

> Meteor, Ash, Forest fire

> Yama: god of death

> Giant, demon

> Varuna: god of the sea

> Vayu: (god of the) wind

>

>Note that the author of Amarakosha was himself a Buddhist.

>

>3. Let me quote from Nilamata Purana from Kashmir:

>

>701. With him who well-concentrated offers one thousand Ira (flowers)

>to Kesava, the lord of the gods is pleased and he goes to heaven.

>702. Rudra, Brahma, the Moon, the Sun, Subha Karisini and Durga

>should be worshipped with Ira (flowers). All the gods are pleased

>(with the offerings of Ira flowers)

>

>709-710a O Brahman, the god Visnu, the lord of the world, shall be

>(born as) the preceptor of the world, Buddha by name, at the time

>when the Pusya is joined with the moon, in the month of Vaisaksha, in

>twenty eighth Kali Age.

>

>710b-12. Listen from as to how his worship should be performed in the

>bright-half, from that period onwards, in uture. The image of Buddha

>should be bathed (with water renderd holy) with all medicinal herbs,

>all jewels and all scents, in accordance with the sayings of the

>Sakyas. The dwellings of the Sakyas (i.e. Viharas) should be

>whitewashed with care.

>

>713. Here and there, the Caityas - the abodes of the god - should be

>provided with paintings. The festival, swarming with the actors and

>the dancers, should be celebrated.

>

>714. The Sakyas should be honoured with Civara (the dress of a

>Buddhist mendicant ), food and books. All this should be done till

>the advent of Magha.

>

>

>Yashwant

>

>Sources:

>http://www.koausa.org/Purana/Verses701-802.html

>sanskrit.bhaarat.com/The_Document_Project/

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Ravindra Viswanath wrote:

 

> Could you also give the dates all these sources were composed?

 

> >1. Brihatsamhiata of Varahamihira: pratimAlakshaNAdhyAyaH

 

Varahamihira: 475-555 AD.

 

> >2. Amarakosha gives names of many gods. Here they are in order:

 

Amarasimha: estimated to have lived around 4th cent AD. Another one

of the nava-ratnas according to tradition.

 

> >3. Let me quote from Nilamata Purana from Kashmir:

 

Estimated to have been composed between 6th to 8th century.

 

Yashwant