Guest guest Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Dear list members, 1. Classical Sanskrit While browsing a sanskrit primer I came across the word for "sieve" spelled "t-i-t-a-u" (NOT "t-i-t-au"). I.e. "a" and "u" not assimilated to "au". Apte lists the word as "t-i-t-a-u" in his english-sanskrit dictionary under sieve with no indication that this is only used in vedic. M-W gives only the RV reference 10.71.2a. Is "t-i-t-a-u" (with this spelling)in fact used anywhere in classic sanskrit? 2. Vedic Sanskrit In Vedic sanskrit mantra portions where the WRITTEN text indicates vowel assimilation but metrical restoration analysis indicates that originally there was no assimilation, are there cases where IN RECITATION there is a metrical restoration. Thanks, Harry Harry Spier 371 Brickman Rd. Hurleyville, New York USA 12747 _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 The word ti-ta-u does occur in the Rigveda mantra saktum iva ti-ta-unaa punanto yatra dhiiraa manasaa vaacam akrata, but it does not occur in the classical language. There are indeed instances of words like suurya and vare.nyam (in the famous gaayatrii mantra) which are often pronounced as suuriya and vare.niyam, where the meter needs it. For instance, the paadas of the gaayatrii meter are supposed to consist of eight syllables each. However, unless one recites tat savitur vare.nyam as tat savitur vare.niyam, the meter does not work. This happens in hundreds of instances. Madhav Deshpande INDOLOGY, "Harry Spier" <harryspier@H...> wrote: > Dear list members, > > > 1. Classical Sanskrit > While browsing a sanskrit primer I came across the word for "sieve" > spelled "t-i-t-a-u" (NOT "t-i-t-au"). I.e. "a" and "u" not assimilated to > "au". Apte lists the word as "t-i-t-a-u" in his english-sanskrit dictionary > under sieve with no indication that this is only used in vedic. M-W gives > only the RV reference 10.71.2a. > Is "t-i-t-a-u" (with this spelling)in fact used anywhere in classic > sanskrit? > > 2. Vedic Sanskrit > In Vedic sanskrit mantra portions where the WRITTEN text indicates vowel > assimilation but metrical restoration analysis indicates that originally > there was no assimilation, are there cases where IN RECITATION there is a > metrical restoration. > > Thanks, > Harry > > > Harry Spier > 371 Brickman Rd. > Hurleyville, New York > USA 12747 > > > > > _______________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 INDOLOGY, "deshpandem" <mmdesh@U...> wrote: > The word ti-ta-u does occur in the Rigveda mantra saktum iva > ti-ta-unaa punanto yatra dhiiraa manasaa vaacam akrata, but it > does not occur in the classical language. There are indeed > instances of words like suurya and vare.nyam (in the famous > gaayatrii mantra) which are often pronounced as suuriya and > vare.niyam, where the meter needs it. For instance, the paadas > of the gaayatrii meter are supposed to consist of eight syllables > each. However, unless one recites tat savitur vare.nyam as tat > savitur vare.niyam, the meter does not work. This happens in > hundreds of instances. > > Madhav Deshpande > Dear Indologists, There are many instances where vowels a,i,u might be inserted to create alternative pronounciations. I wonder, if there are examples of other vowels playing the same role (for example, upholding a meter) --- aa,ii,uu,.r,e,o ? Regards, Dmitri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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