[Y-Indology] Dr. S. Wells on early man in India

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At 19:01 2002-12-29, you wrote:

 

 

>Many articles from Genetics specialists mention about people speaking

>Dravidian languages reached India more than 10000 years ago.

 

 

A new branch of linguistics in statu nascendi.

Might be named Genetic Linguistics.

Or vice versa. No big difference.

 

Artur Karp

 

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On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Artur Karp wrote:

 

> A new branch of linguistics in statu nascendi.

> Might be named Genetic Linguistics.

> Or vice versa. No big difference.

 

I thought genetic linguistics has been on the way out for some time, and

that historians are increasingly recognizing that groups have been much

more ready to adopt other groups' languages than we used to think; whereas

in the past the history of language seems to have been taken to be a

very reliable mirror of ethnic history.

 

P

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At 21:26 2002-12-29, you wrote:

 

 

 

>On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Artur Karp wrote:

>

> > A new branch of linguistics in statu nascendi.

> > Might be named Genetic Linguistics.

> > Or vice versa. No big difference.

>

>I thought genetic linguistics has been on the way out for some time, and

>that historians are increasingly recognizing that groups have been much

>more ready to adopt other groups' languages than we used to think; whereas

>in the past the history of language seems to have been taken to be a

>very reliable mirror of ethnic history.

>

>P

 

Nie rozumiem.

 

Oops... I do not quite get you. Do you want to tell me that by checking on

my blood a genetic linguist can tell me what was the language of my

ancestors (say of 2000 years ago)?

If they can say that the population of South India 10 thousand years ago

was linguistically Dravidian, then - sky is the limit.

 

Regards,

 

Artur Karp

 

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Artur Karp wrote:

 

> Oops... I do not quite get you. Do you want to tell me that by checking

> on

> my blood a genetic linguist can tell me what was the language of my

> ancestors (say of 2000 years ago)?

 

It is exactly this rigid language-race equation that I thought might no

longer be taken for granted either in linguistics or in ethnology?

 

P

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At 20:39 2002-12-30, you wrote:

 

 

>Profs. Karp, Ernest,

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>Dr. L. M. Fosse's words might be of use,

>INDOLOGY/message/2226

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>Happy 2003!

>N. Ganesan

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Dear Dr. Ganesan,

 

What makes me a bit uneasy is this particular use of the word "Dravidian".

Dravidians 10 thousand years ago? Meaning people speaking a Dravidian

language? Or have the specialists in genetic research discovered a new,

Dravidian human race?

 

 

 

Artur Karp

 

PS. Thank you for the link

 

 

 

 

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Monday, December 30, 2002 2:39 PM

[Y-Indology] Re: Dr. S. Wells on early man in India

 

 

 

Profs. Karp, Ernest,

 

Dr. L. M. Fosse's words might be of use,

INDOLOGY/message/2226

 

 

Thank you. I guess the great indological example of this trend to reexamine

the language-race equation is Asko Parpola's theory that the people of the Indus

Valley Civilization eventually converted to the speech (among other things) of

the small Aryan sub-group that had been living with them for some centuries (if

I correctly understand what I have read). So the racial component in that

cultural transformation would have been small. But the transformation was so

great that invasion long seemed the only possible explanation.

 

P