[Y-Indology] position of accent in samaasas

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>Does Panini speak of the stress accent?

>

Yes. Panini deals with the accent of samAsas in the sUtras P.6.1.223 and

6.2.1-199. The general rule on the samAsa accent P.6.1.223 (samAsasya)

prescribes the accent on the last syllable (antodAtta). Examples:

rAja-puru'Sa; rAja-puruSa-pu'tra; rAja-puruSa-putra-puru'Sa. But there

are many exceptions. P.6.2.1-110 prescribe the original accent to the first

pada (prakRtyA pUrvapadam). Out of these, P.6.2.64-91 deal with the accent

on the first syllable (AdirudAtta) of the first pada, whereas P.6.2.92-110

deal with the accent on the last syllable (antodAtta). P.6.2.111-142 deal

with the accent on the first syllble of the second pada (uttarapadAdi), out

of which P.6.2.140-142 prescribe the original accent to both the padas (ubhe

yugapat). P.6.2.143-199 deal with the accent on the last syllable

(antodAtta) of the second pada.

 

Regards.

 

Narayan Prasad

 

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"Phillip Ernest" <phillip.ernest

<INDOLOGY>

Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:14 PM

[Y-Indology] position of accent in samaasas

 

 

> Dear list:

>

> What happens to the stress accent in samaasas? Is it positioned according

to

> the syllabic shape of the whole samaasa, or does each pada keep its

original

> accent (this seems to be inevitable in long compounds)? Is is

kaala'traya, or

> kaa'latra'ya? What do the old grammarians say about it, and what is the

modern

> practice? Does Panini speak of the stress accent?

>

> Phillip

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Quoting Narayan Prasad <prasad_cwprs:

 

> >Does Panini speak of the stress accent?

> >

> Yes. Panini deals with the accent of samAsas in the sUtras P.6.1.223

> and

> 6.2.1-199.

 

Thanks. Is the quasi-latinate stress accent described in Coulson and other

grammars observed in India today, and are other systems used?

 

Phillip

[Guest guest]

Keep in mind that there is a distinction between stress accent and

pitch accent. The accent as described by Panini, Patanjali, and the

Praatizaakhyas is a pitch accent, rather than a stress accent (as in

English), and the Vedic recitation preserves this pitch accent.

However, it is possible, nay most likely, that the original accent of

spoken Sanskrit was a stress accent. The kind of accent-related

variation seen in forms like asti vs santi, and naumi vs nuva.h is

indicative of the variation between stressed vs unstressed

syllables. In the form asti, the initial 'a' is accented, while in

the derivation of santi from the root 'as', the accent shifts away

from 'a' of 'as' and the unstressed vowel gets lost. in naumi, the

root vowel is accented, while in nuva.h, the root vowel is

unaccented. Over time, stress accent can change to pitch accent in

recitation, and this is what seems to have happened in Sanskrit.

However, in its formative stages it was, in my opinion, a stress

accent. Best,

 

Madhav Deshpande

 

INDOLOGY, Phillip Ernest <phillip.ernest@u...>

wrote:

> Quoting Narayan Prasad <prasad_cwprs>:

>

> > >Does Panini speak of the stress accent?

> > >

> > Yes. Panini deals with the accent of samAsas in the sUtras

P.6.1.223

> > and

> > 6.2.1-199.

>

> Thanks. Is the quasi-latinate stress accent described in Coulson

and other

> grammars observed in India today, and are other systems used?

>

> Phillip

[Guest guest]

Dear List,

I would like to know the connection between Buddhism/

Pali/Buddha with Old Iranian stuiffs like Persian

languages and culture or Avestan influences. Are there

any scholarship in this field?

Cheers, Anujit.

 

 

 

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