Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 I don't know if Aurangzeb was a vegetarian or not, but I wouldn't say: <To consider him a vegetarian strains credulity.> After all, Hitler too was a vegetarian, and it has been said that as per Valmiki,Rama wasn't. V. V. Raman - V.C.Vijayaraghavan <vij INDOLOGY Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:39 AM [Y-Indology] Was Aurengazeb vegetarian? A well known Indian correspondant M.J.Akbar says so. http://www.dawn.com/2003/02/27/op.htm#4 "(Aurangzeb, incidentally, for those who might consider this interesting, was a vegetarian, but this did not make him a sensible ruler.)" What is the historical source for this piece of info? After all Aurengazeb was by all accounts a fundemntalist Muslim ruler creating much bad memory with Indians. He was anything but eclectic in his attitudes and beliefs. To consider him a vegetarian strains credulity. Is it true? Sponsor indology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 - "V.V. Raman" <vvrsps <INDOLOGY> Saturday, March 01, 2003 6:55 AM Re: [Y-Indology] Was Aurengazeb vegetarian? and it has been said that as per Valmiki,Rama wasn't. The contrast of raama with Aurengazeb and Hitler is not quite perfect in this case, is it. After all, raama was evidently no more averse than either of these fellows to killing things with eyes, or to killing them on the basis of their racial and cultural affiliation (if the raakSasas were a race, and had a culture- and they seem to have had quite a high one). Yet it is true that there is no reason to think that raama, even if he 'heated' or 'burned' his foes, was not careful about what he put in his mouth, and certainly he was no cannibal- or would the raakSasas have been admitted by manu as legitimately comestible subhuman fare? Somehow bhiima, cannibal though he was, has always seemed to me a much more amiable and charming character than raama, which may go to show that the effect of dietary practices on personality may not always be very deep. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 INDOLOGY, "V.V. Raman" <vvrsps@r...> wrote: > > I don't know if Aurangzeb was a vegetarian or not, but I wouldn't say: > <To consider him a vegetarian strains credulity.> > > After all, Hitler too was a vegetarian, and it has been said that as per Valmiki,Rama wasn't. It strains credulity not because of his tyranny, but because he was committed to a hard line of Islam, in which vegetarianism has no part. To the best of my knowledge, no sect in Islam is carno-phobic. Vegetarian tyrants are an understandable and logical phenomena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 <It strains credulity not because of his tyranny, but because he was committed to a hard line of Islam, in which vegetarianism has no part.> Very good point. I am sorry I did not interpret your statement this way. Given that in traditional Islam, animal slaughter is part of an annual feast, yes, it does seem strange if Au was really a vegetarian. V. V. Raman - V.C.Vijayaraghavan <vij INDOLOGY Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:11 PM Re: [Y-Indology] Was Aurengazeb vegetarian? INDOLOGY, "V.V. Raman" <vvrsps@r...> wrote: > > I don't know if Aurangzeb was a vegetarian or not, but I wouldn't say: > <To consider him a vegetarian strains credulity.> > > After all, Hitler too was a vegetarian, and it has been said that as per Valmiki,Rama wasn't. It strains credulity not because of his tyranny, but because he was committed to a hard line of Islam, in which vegetarianism has no part. To the best of my knowledge, no sect in Islam is carno-phobic. Vegetarian tyrants are an understandable and logical phenomena. Sponsor indology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 INDOLOGY, "V.V. Raman" <vvrsps@r...> wrote: > <It strains credulity not because of his tyranny, but because he was > committed to a hard line of Islam, in which vegetarianism has no > part.> > > Very good point. I am sorry I did not interpret your statement this way. Given that in traditional Islam, animal slaughter is part of an annual feast, yes, it does seem strange if Au was really a vegetarian. > > V. V. Raman Should vegetarianism always be the outcome of convictions - religious, health-conciousness, ahimsa or whatever ? How about being a vegetarian on grounds of simple culinary preference. Perhaps some people cannot stand the taste of meat, just as some cannot stand eating eggplants. Maybe Aurangazeb participated in the Bakr-id festivities and then went home to eat palak-panneer. Sugrutha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 namaskaar, I remembered reading somewhere that curiously the Intellectual Giants - both good and bad types -- were vegetarians -- Hitler, Aurengzeb. Ia ma not sure if anybody else have given the culinary aspects of personalities and the result they have yielded. I don't know if anybody has made out a list like the one below and studied it... "LeadersCulinary weaknesses" vajpayi - sweets Best Reagards, aa no bhadraaH kratavo yantu vishvataH (Let noble thoughts come to us (naH-no) from the Universe -- RV 1.89.1) Rajagopal S. Iyer INDOLOGY, "sugrutha <sugrutha>" <sugrutha> wrote: > INDOLOGY, "V.V. Raman" <vvrsps@r...> wrote: > > <It strains credulity not because of his tyranny, but because he > was > > committed to a hard line of Islam, in which vegetarianism has no > > part.> > > > > Very good point. I am sorry I did not interpret your statement this > way. Given that in traditional Islam, animal slaughter is part of an > annual feast, yes, it does seem strange if Au was really a vegetarian. > > > > V. V. Raman > > Should vegetarianism always be the outcome of convictions - > religious, health-conciousness, ahimsa or whatever ? How about being > a vegetarian on grounds of simple culinary preference. Perhaps some > people cannot stand the taste of meat, just as some cannot stand > eating eggplants. Maybe Aurangazeb participated in the Bakr-id > festivities and then went home to eat palak-panneer. > > Sugrutha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 - "mmtarun" <mmmtarun "INDOLOGY" <indology> Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:07 PM Fw: [Y-Indology] Was Aurengazeb vegetarian? > Rama was not Aurengazeb by any means. No, unfortunately Aurengazeb was real. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 - <rajsand <INDOLOGY> Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:39 AM Re: [Y-Indology] Was Aurengazeb vegetarian? > I remembered reading somewhere that curiously the Intellectual Giants > - both good and bad types -- were vegetarians -- Hitler, Aurengzeb. I wonder how much of their genius those intellectual giants owed to their diet. I have also heard that vegetarianism conduces to a mild and compassionate disposition. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2003 Report Share Posted March 6, 2003 Quoting Allen W Thrasher <athr: > I wonder how much a vegetarian diet inclines to peaceableness, > considering the Brahmin warriors from the time of the Mahabharata to the > Bengal Army of the East India Company. It doesn't necessarily conduce to health either (a corresponding Western religious justification of the practice), according to a newspaper statistic I saw months ago, which said that Hindus in India have about the same high rates of arteriovascular disease as carnivorous Americans, perhaps due to the abundant use of ghee, which must be about the worst thing you can put in your arteries. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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