Saivites and Vaishnavites

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Hullo All! I am working on an op-ed piece and was wondering if anyone here could

guide me to a few specific resources on the Net? I am looking for information on

skirmishes/battles between Vaishnavites and Saivites in India in the 17th, 18th,

and/or 19th centuries? I am not sure of the dates but I do know that these were

furious battles in the South of India in which several thousand lives were lost.

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naga_ganesan <naga_ganesan wrote:

Reading E. Bryant's book, The quest for the origins

of Vedic culture, 2002

 

Dr. Bryant makes several observations about Dravidian and draws important

conclusions, tho' he does not cite any references.

 

For example,

p.180

"This would result in the entire Indigenous Aryan position

losing cogency. It is imperative for the entire Indigenous

case that the script be Indo-Aryan. On the other hand, it has

also been argued that it is unlikely that the script is

Dravidian, since it uses a numbering system with a base ten.

Dravidian uses base eight."

 

p. 183

"The same consideration applies to Munda. Moreover, as noted

earlier, the numbering system of the script, which uses

a base of ten, does not appear to correspond to that of

Dravidian, which uses a base of eight."

 

Dravidian, in general, uses a base of ten, and not eight

as claimed by Bryant. The decimal system of old Tamil

texts employs paHtu "10" and nURu "100". Both have

been constructed for Proto-Dravidian (Parpola, 1994 book

has details). nURu-tal and pakuttal/peH- means in Tamil

"to divide, to break" and both 10 & 100 mean "break" points in

Dravidian numerals. Another interesting point is

the Tamil words for 9, 90, 900 & so on.

Since 9 is one less than the important number base 10,

it's called "toNTu" in classical Tamil. toNTu '9',

ton2n2URu '90', toLAyiram '900' have the root,

"toL-" (less, decrease, reduce) which points to

the adjoining "big" number, 10, 100, 1000 respectively.

 

Because old Tamil and proto-dravidian knows

abundantly paHtu 'ten', nURu 'hundred' etc.,

it may not be a valid reason to discount Dravidian

from the Indus culture.

 

Regards,

N. Ganesan

 

 

 

 

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