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The report actually says that there is no sign of a 'temple',

although there is partial to conclusive evidence in 15/30 NEW

trenches (total trenches dug up is 72) of a pre-existing structure at

the site.

 

In the 42 trenches dug up earlier, the results were similar. There

was some evidence of pillar bases belonging to a pre-Babri structure

from some of these 42 trenches as well. This is why the Courts of Law

extended the period of excavations, so that some more evidence might

be unearthed.

 

The ASI report means that it is UNCLEAR if the pre-existing structure

was a temple or not. The report takes into account ONLY the evidence

from the 72 trenches.

 

When this evidence is taken into account together with the 250 odd

artifacts unearthed from between the walls of Babri, it is possible

to conclude the opposite, viz. the Babri replaced a pre-existing

temple at the site.

 

In the Indian media reports of the last two days themselves, one can

read diametrically opposite reports. Thus, Sify.com highlights the

existence of a structure below Babri, Rediff.com. IExpress and TOI

highlight that there is no temple. The BBC used even the latter set

of reports selectively (because the TOI report at least mentioned

that 15/30 new trenches had some pillar bases) and gave its own spin.

 

The ASI itself has NOT made its report public. The media reports are

all based on a press briefing made by Zarfaryab Jeelani and other

officials of AIBMAC at Lucknow two days back. The organization has

hired 4 'independent' archaeologists, whose stance on political

issues, as well as their association with political/social

organizations that are left of the center, are too well known to need

further comment.

 

I hope the moderator does not censor my message.

 

Vishal

 

INDOLOGY, Sfauthor@a... wrote:

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> 'No sign' of Ayodhya temple

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2981106.stm

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> Brian

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INDOLOGY, Sfauthor@a... wrote:

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> 'No sign' of Ayodhya temple

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2981106.stm

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That story is a quote of a Times of India story and is not accurate.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/02111600.htm

 

No structural anomalies found in new trenches: ASI

 

Lucknow, June 11. (PTI): In a significant

development in the ongoing excavation at the

acquired land at Ayodhya, the Archaeological Survey

of India has said, in its progress report, that no

structural anomalies suggesting evidence of any

structure under the demolished Babri mosque had been

found in 15 of the new trenches dug up at the site.

 

The report, submitted to the special bench of the

Lucknow Bench of the Allahabad High Court yesterday,

said the Tojo Vikas international ground penetrating

radar (GPR) survey had pointed out structural

anomalies at the disputed site but the excavation in

15 new trenches did not confirm to the Tojo survey,

sources here said today.

 

Structural anomalies were, however, detected in 15

other trenches, the report said.

 

The ASI has, in its earlier report, submitted to the

court in April last sought permission of the court

to undertake digging in 30 new trenches.

 

The ASI had so far carried out excavation work in 72

trenches, of which 30 trenches were dug after taking

permission of the High Court.

 

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The academic lists have so built walls around themselves that it is not clear

that they

can see anything beyond their own biases. Anyway, here is a news-article posted

here with the hope that some of them will see it, and it will penetrate the

ivory tower.

 

-Arun Gupta

 

http://www.outlookindia.com/

full.asp?fodname=20030623&fname=Ayodhya+%28F%29&sid=3

 

 

AYODHYA

No Escape, Left Or Right

The article Secrets Of The Shrine on the excavation findings has been

accused of being untrue and partisan. Really, the author asks.

 

SANDIPAN DEB

OUTLOOK India, 23 June 2003

 

 

As I stood a few metres away from the makeshift structure that houses

the Ram Lalla idol in Ayodhya on a dog day afternoon in mid-May and

watched a Sikh videographer recording the process of recovery of some

artefact from a trench close by, I knew I was in trouble. Whatever I

wrote about my visit and the findings of the excavation, I would

enrage both sides of the mandir-masjid debate. There was no escape.

I was right. In the last few weeks I have been called a running dog

of the VHP, and a lunatic leftie. One mail on our website even

promised that when the Hindu revolution comes, I should vamoose to

Bangladesh. In addition, there have been accusations that I never

visited the site, that the stone slab I had mentioned in my June 2

article with early Devanagari inscription on it did not exist, that I

be hauled up for contempt of court. Let's tackle the stone slab

matter first.

 

On May 29, The Times of India reported: "(Sunni Waqf Board counsel

Zafaryab Jilani said that) the inscription has neither been removed

nor photographed till date. Even the plaintiffs or defendants have no

idea about this particular inscription which is lying upside down."

Okay. But on June 12, the same paper quoted unnamed ASI officials as

saying that it would take a long time before anyone can say that the

fourth letter is the sacred sign swoaham followed by the

word 'Ram'. "Our own epigraphist has managed to decipher only one

word, that is, 'pala' in the inscription," the official is quoted.

The ASI officials' view totally corroborates the copy of the

inscription we carried in Outlook. I had written: "The pro-mandir men

immediately saw the fourth letter as the Hindu sacred sign swoaham,

followed by the word 'Ram'...Non-VHP observers see no swoaham there,

neither do they make out Ram." Yet, my article has been accused of

being "partisan and inaccurate".

 

The stone slab is still underground, since trench J3 was flooded. The

water is being pumped out now and the slab will perhaps be unearthed

in the next few days. As for charges that I was nowhere near the site

and fabricated my story, based on the fact that my name is not

entered in the visitors' register, did you expect me to visit the

disputed area wearing a fluorescent Outlook T-shirt handing out

copies of the magazine to the policemen?

 

Which brings me to the question of bias. While most papers covering

the new ASI report last week said that it claims there was no

structure under the Babri masjid, what the report actually says is

that of the 30 recent trenches, the team has found man-made

structures in eight, and none in 16. In five, they couldn't decide

due to "structural activities at the upper levels" (mainly the plinth

of the Babri masjid). One trench they did not survey. Among the

structures listed in the report are several brick walls "in east-west

orientation", several in "north-south orientation", "decorated

coloured floor", several "pillar bases", and a "1.64-metre high

decorated black stone pillar (broken) with yaksha figurines on four

corners". Now that I am sounding like a "running dog of the VHP" to

the "lunatic lefties", let me quickly add that they also

found "Arabic inscription of holy verses on stone".

 

But what many people have missed out on?due to bias or sloth?is that

these are findings only from the period of May 22 to June 6. This is

not the full list. If they read the earlier reports, they would also

find listed several walls, a staircase, and two black basalt

columns "bearing fine decorative carvings with two cross-legged

figures in bas-relief on a bloomed lotus with a peacock whose

feathers are raised upwards".

 

 

The ideology does not matter. A journalist must report the facts. So

let me apologise for two errors I made. One is grave: I wrote that

the ASI reports to Murli Manohar Joshi; it actually comes under

Jagmohan.The other is a technicality: the ASI did not project a

photograph of the Devanagari inscription on a screen for the

excavation observers to see, they showed a large photographic print.

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