Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 Dear mayesvara,<br>would you kindly clarify one question for me. When true krishna bhaktas as yourself are carrying out 'devotional service' to Krishna then who are you actually referring to?<br>The Krisna as a person who was killed by a vyaadha's(hunter's) arrow?<br>Or something else?<br>The body who was standing before Arjuna when Gita was being preached?<br>Or something else?<br>Is the statue of krishna that bhaktas resort to is an end in itself?<br>Or something else?<br><br>FYG, later on in the Mahabharata, when Arjuna requests Krishna for a repeat of his teachings given just before the war, Krishna expresses his inability to do so.<br>Why has this episode been added by the writer?<br><br>Please do not take this otherwise because one has a habit of raising questions, no aggression intended.<br><br>regards really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Dear nameless one, (Really I Am)<br> <br> I am sorry that you are displeased with my delayed response. The subject matter of the absolute truth is not something that I am inclined to bander about whimsically as it appears the other memers of this interest group are in the habit of doing. I am currenlty preparing a response to your questions admist other obligations. However based on the content of the messages shared between yourselves already, it appears that many of you are resolute in your current understanding and show little interest in engaging in a serious philosophical discussion unless it concurs with your current level of awareness. It is evident that there seems to be a concensus tht every flavor of Hinduism speaks of the same thing and there is no distinction between the Hanuman Bhakti, the Shiva Bhakti, and the Krishna Bhakti. I find this to be an amazing statment coming from individuals who claim to have some understanding of Vedic knowledge. The orthadox Shivite who wears only ashes and live in solitude is not even slightly similar to the erudite Vaishnava who writes profound literature to help guide the conditioned soul back to Godhead. Such thoughts may be comforting to the lazy or psyudo-spiritualist, but they are absurd to even a common man what to speak of an individual who is rigerous in his persuit of the absolute truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 "bander,-hurting,<br>whimsically,-mocking,<br> habit of doing,-sarcastic,<br>amidst other obligations,-full of ego,<br>resolute in understanding,-judgemental,<br>little interest,-contemptuous,<br>current level of awareness,-superior airs,<br>saivite wearing ashes is different than, -sheer ignorance,vaishnavite writing profound literature,<br>common man-you do not know him, since you are sitting in an ivory tower."<br>those are some of your harsh words I have taken out to show how you are blinded in your frenzy.they are not appropriate to an ordained priest.<br>it is better to make noise IN worship than ABOUT worship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Dear mayeswar,<br>Am very eagerly for the responses that you are preparing for my questions, for that would hopefully give me some insight of a person so different.<br>Triggering off defensive responses in yourself was not at all my intention, that is why time and again I stress to not read any aggression in my posts, let us keep it to spiritual discussion as silent_soul indicated earlier.<br>I deeply regret all the mudslinging that has been generated by one's posts, and hope that all members would forgive me. My only intention here is genuine enquiry which leads us to a better understanding of ourselves.<br>Please do not colour your responses with malice but let us learn from the real you. Can't help responding to your allegation of whimsicality(am not perfect after all); If you consider me bandering whimsically which is purely your judgement , why care to respond to my posts, I would understand it as would so many other members.<br>regards and hoping for the best for all brother/sister sadhak's gracing this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2001 Report Share Posted March 22, 2001 Mr. Mayesvara has written <<<The orthadox Shivite who wears only ashes and live in solitude is not even slightly similar to the erudite Vaishnava who writes profound literature to help guide the conditioned soul back to Godhead.>>>><br><br> this statement confirms that <br><br>1) He is a neo-convert to Hinduism and has studied only a part of it and is fascinated by the first grasped idea. His brain is not yet evolved enough to grasp the Hinduism in totality.<br><br>2) This is a reflection of his Semitic thought of "Your god" and "my god". We are born hindus and have hinduism in our blood, hence we are not baffled by different forms of god. Nor are we ready to learn Hinduism from the half-baked ideas of a newly converted.<br><br>3) By using difficult Enlgish words and by quoting Sastra, he is just trying to force his own views on others.<br><br>4) What is your job as Krishna Bhakta ? Are you supposed to do Krishna bhakti or belittle others in the name of Krishna ? Has Krishna given you this job to reform the world ?? Or he expects you to learn first ?<br><br>5) I respect Krishna as God despite being a shiva-bhakta and true to the tune of a bhakta I will neither belittle you or Krishna.<br><br> See how Krishna is playing with you ??<br><br><br>Om Namah shivaye<br><br>shiva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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