In the beginning...

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DIVINE

GENESIS<br>---\

-----------<br>In the beginning, that which Is is All there was,

and there was nothing else. Yet All that Is could not

know itself - because All That Is is All there was,

and there was nothing else. And so, All That Is...was

not. For in the absence of something else, All That

is, is not.<br><br>This is the great Is/Not Is to

which mystics have referred from the beginning of

time.<br>Now All That Is knew it was all there was - but this

was not enough, for it could only know its utter

magnificence conceptually, not experientially. Yet the

experience of itself is that for which it longed, for it

wanted to know what it felt like to be so

magnificent.<br><br>Still, this was impossible, because the very term

"magnificent" is a relative term. All That Is could not know

what it felt like to be magnificent unless that which

is Not showed up. In the absence of that which is

not that which IS, is not.<br><br>The one thing that

All That Is knew is that there was nothing else. And

so it could, and would, never know itself from a

reference point outside of Itself. Such a point did not

exist. Only one reference point existed, and that was

the single place within. The "Is-Not is." The Am-Not

Am.<br><br>Still, the All of Everything chose to know Itself

Experientially.<br><br>This energy-this pure, unseen, unheard, unobserved,

and therefore unknown-by-anyone-else energy-chose to

experience Itself as the utter magnificence It was. In order

to do this It realized It would have to use a

reference point within.<br><br>It reasoned, quite

correctly, that any portion of Itself would necessarily have

to be less than the whole, and that if It thus

simply divided Itself into portions, each portion, being

less than the whole, could look back on the rest of

Itself and see magnificence.<br><br>And so All that Is

divided itself-becoming, in one glorious moment, that

which is this, and that which is that. For the first

time, this and that existed, quite apart from each

other. And still, both existed simultaneously.<br>As did

all that was neither.<br><br>Thus, three elements

suddenly existed: that which is here. That which is there.

And that which is neither here nor there-but which

must exist for here and there to exist.<br><br>It is

the nothing which holds the everything. <br>It is the

non-space which holds the space.<br>It is the all which

holds the parts.<br><br>Now this nothing which hold

everything is what some people call God. Yet that is not

accurate, either, for it suggests that there is something

God is not-namely, everything that is not

"nothing".<br><br>But I am All Things-seen and unseen-so this

description of Me as the Great Unseen-the No-Thing or the

Space Between, an essentially Eastern mystical

definition of God, is no more accurate that the essentially

Western practical description of God as all that is seen.

Those who belive that God is All That Is and All That

is Not, are those whose understanding is

correct.<br><br>My divine purpose in dividing Me was to create

sufficient parts of Me that I could know Myself

Experientially.<br><br>My purpose in creating you, My spiritual offspring,

was for Me to know Myself as God.<br>I have no way to

do that save through you. <br><br>Thus it can be

said that My purpose for you is that you should know

yourself as Me.<br><br>Your job on Earth, therefore is not

to learn, but to RE-MEMBER Who You Are

!<br><br>-----\

------------<br><br>Excerpt from the book

CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD by Neale

Donald Walsch<br><br>Greetings,<br><br>AinSoph_00

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"Yet the experience of itself is that for which

it longed, for it wanted to know what it felt like

to be so magnificent"<br>But for this naive

assertion that the One without a second longed to

experience its own magnificence,for which we require more

strong evidence than the myriad representations of

Nature that are around us,whatever you have confidently

reproduced from some eminent thinkers made really

interesting and perhaps even plausibly<br>wise reading.It

shows how if we are careless enough to overlook a vital

loophole in an argument we could all be sold out lock ,

stock and barrel to specious tales.

[Guest guest]

It is the same that the Vedas say don't you think.<br>The problem is that the

vedas are so confusing that you seem to have missed that.<br><br>Lucideye

[Guest guest]

frankly I don't know about the vedas and in fact

you are right I found them repetitive and

confusing(no offense to scholars) and I had to leave a few

clubs where even though the founders were probably

knowledgeable I could not make much headway since sometimes the

translation seemed laboured and with my defective knowledge

of sanskrit I gave up.But I found chanting easy and

I got instant happiness.<br>What I wanted to say in

my earlier message was :let's spend time chanting or

in social service than in arguing, speculating,

interpreting, annotating .I still don't mean offence to people

who are doing some service writing .My point is for

ordinary folks like me, bhakti marg is easy to follow.As

they say in our rural side, bhakti main hi shakti

hai.<br>sulekh

[Guest guest]

Sulekha you are very right. "Kaliyug Kewal Naam

adhaaraaa" In Kaliyug Japa Yoga is the most effective way to

attain Moksha.<br><br> However, I am thankful to Kajol

for stirring the club hence I could read beautiful

posts of lucideye, Really Im, peggy and

silentsoul.<br>Discussion as long as it not meant to insult someone, is

always helpful. We correct or get corrected.<br><br>Om

Sai Ram