Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 I have to explain to one of my British friends about Vedanta.<br><br> Will someone kindly tell me in simple terms without using Hinduism terminology, what Vedanta is.(because my friend does not know any of technical terms used by us like chitaa or manas or brahm etc)<br><br>Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Vedanta is a philosophy based on the Vedas, the sacred scriptures of India. It affirms the oneness of existence, the divinity of the soul, and the harmony of religions. Vedanta is the philosophical foundation of Hinduism; but while Hinduism includes aspects of Indian culture, Vedanta is universal in its application and is equally relevant to all countries, all cultures, and all religious backgrounds. Vedanta is a combination of two words: "Veda" which means "knowledge" and "anta" which means "the end of" or "the goal of." The goal of knowledge isn't the intellectual knowledge we acquire by reading books. "Knowledge" here means the knowledge of God as well as the knowledge of our own divine nature. Vedanta, then, is the search for Self-knowledge as well as the search for God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 Yes, Dear Babu has very correctly said that Vedanta is not bound in cultures, nationalities or religions. Vedanta is a religion of mankind.<br><br> Well to explain to your friend, I give u an example a very simple one. Take a cotton cloth and tie a knot in it. Now analyze.<br><br> cotton is the basic ingredient. It has been made into threads. Can threads not be called cotton? <br><br>Then the threads are woven into cloth, so what is the definition of cloth ? Is it thread...yes it is OR it is cotton as basic material manifested into thread and cloth ? Yes that too is correct.<br><br>Now we come to knot ? what is knot ? it is a special arrangement of clothe, which is a manifestation of thread, which is a manifestation of cotton. so knot too is cotton in an arrangement.<br><br> If knot is opened, will the cloth vanish with the knot....NO !!<br><br> If cloth is unwoven, cloth will disappear but not the threads and if threads are unmade, threads will disappear but not the cotton !<br><br> Cotton is Brahm, the supreme consciousness, threads is the Mother Nature, cloth is the Universe and knot is our individual personality. This is Vedanta.<br><br> I must advice here that Advait Vedanta is not a sadhna to be started with. It is for those who have reached the highest realms of dwaita, understood and controlled the three gunas. Example of Shri Ramkrishna Paramhansa is relevant here. Or for those who have in their past births done their sadhna and reborn as Mahapurusha like Shankracharya or Ramana Maharishi.<br><br><br>Hari Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 Hi folks,<br><br>Been very busy the last few days, so I wasn't able to reply to your post,Tatwamasi, but I try to do it later.<br>Now, I just wanted to comment on that below.<br><br><< Yes, Dear Babu has very correctly said that Vedanta is not bound in cultures, nationalities or religions. Vedanta is a religion of mankind.>><br><br>Religion of mankind? I'm sure that everybody will tell this about his/her religion if asked. If you mean the essence that is contained in every religion then you are right, but then you do not need Vedanta. Vedanta certainly is no special religion superior to any other, but, of course, contains truth mixed with 90 percent useless stuff.<br><br>I have got some questions to all followers of the vedic way. Do you think that everybody should learn/study the vedas and that at any time in the future, everybody will follow the vedic way?<br>Don't you think that the vedas are much too complicated for 90% of humanity? Don't you think, that it would be better if everybody would forget all that complicated stuff, the sanskrit terms, etc., etc. and try to establish a religion that is based on the truth and only the truth and not on superstitions and various presumptions? A "religion" that is eventually understandable for everybody and that can be practized by everyone without worshipping stone and wooden gods and goddesses that is useless anyway?<br>Do you think the vedas can provide that?<br><br>Looking forward to your answers.<br><br>Lucideye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 Om namah Sivaya<br><br>You might also want to introduce your friend to Patanjali's Raja Yoga Sutras and characterize them as a complete theory of consciousness leading to God-Realization, an awareness of who/what you really are.<br><br>Instead of trying establish a religion based on vedanta why not simply chart your own spiritual path based on the upanishads. I'm always spiritually energized by reading the upanishads and and have heard excellent upanishadic discourses by Hindus, Sikhs and Yogis who are not aligned with a particular religion. None of these discourses were slanted toward a particular religion but toward a personal path to Spiritual Liberation. This approach also has the practical benefit of avoiding unproductive discussions about whose gods and goddesses are better or whether gods and goddesses are helpful or hindrances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 to maa n 'Atheist' is not the one who does not believe in a hindu god, an islamic god or a christian god so on and so forth......<br><br>to me an 'Atheist' is one who does not believe in himself. <br><br>katha upanishads is one of the most beautiful upanishads - shriman silent soul has a beautiful web page -and maa would recommend both lucideye and conscious_ disintegrity to visit this web site and learn about the beautiful story of NACHIKETA -HOW THE YOUNG BOY went to the House of death and there he waited for three days before he obtained what he desired..... <br><br>Sraddha - again a sanskrit word- maa does not how to translate this word into english- because faith and trust does not convey the same meaning as Sraddha does- <br><br>nobbody in this forum is asking anyone else to follow this path or that - there are many paths and many relgions-<br><br><br>yoga simply means seeking union with god- and the choice is yours.....<br><br>kriya yoga <br><br>mano yoga <br><br>bhakti yoga<br><br>raja yoga<br><br>samkya yoga<br><br>laya yoga <br><br>mano yoga <br><br>kundalini yoga <br><br>vibhuti yoga <br><br>vipaasana meditation <br><br>moksha sanyasa yoga<br><br>srassdatraya vibhaga yoga <br><br>daivasura sampad vibhaga yoga <br><br>ksetra ksetrajana vibhaga yoga <br><br>akshara brahma yoga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 Mr.Lucideye,<br> <br> Your answer indicated that you do not leave any chance to reject the Hindu way of life. I may tell you that;<br><br> Your answer indicated that you do not even know the difference between Vedas and Vedanta. So there was no need to reply but you grabbed this opportunity to abuse Hinduism and its paths<br><br> If you are ignorant of something or your brain is not evolved to understand Hinduism, does not make it "Nonsense"<br><br> The club is listed in "Hinduism" not in atheism hence if we discuss "nonsense" here what are you doing here anyway ?<br><br> All the club members listened to your "Alice in Wonderland" type story and no body said it was nonsenses (though it was)<br><br> I agree in toto with gypsyqueenb about Hinduism and Bhakti.<br><br>Thanks friends for your replies, it has helped me in explaining Vedanta (specially silentsoul's simplest explanation was great !)<br><br> <br><br>kajol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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