Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 To Swim accross the river , We need to make our body as Boat and hands and legs as puddles..<br><br>Life is Such Like Swiming , we need to learn the Quality of Life as we learn the Quality of Water ..<br>Once we Know How to Float and Blend with water , we can gain Movement , With the Water. Which is Effortless , Which is not the Constant battle with Water. <br><br>One need to Witness and participate with Life , And Know its Mysteries, its Movements , Its Quality in day to day .. Where there is a Understanding ..thought to us. We become that understanding..Like a Swimmer who crosses the river effortless ..Like a eagle which flies without effort.<br><br>This balance- Ones Body and Mind needs to learn from the life . This can't be done by means of any religion <br><br>regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Dear Imthiya you wrote<br><<This can't be done by means of any religion >><br><br> You mean to say no religion wil show the truth, then who will show the truth ? Science, computrs or UFOs ??<br><br> or some aliens or dolphins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 Dear Sushma<br><br>The " self"<br><br>regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Om Guruvay Namah<br>Dear Imthi_yaz<br>You have described only one way to cross the ocean i.e. to swim. But there is another way to cross over i.e. by boat. It is safer and need lesser effort. And that boat is RELIGION which take u accross without any difficulty.<br>Moreover, a true religion is that creates balance in people's life. It tells people how to live, what to do etc. to creat a balance in one's life as well as in society. Hence, it can be said that everybody need religion to balance his body and mind.<br><br>Pradeep<br>Om Dugaya Namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Boats ofcourse yes ..Does it bring real contact with One to the Life ..to the reality?<br><br>I think you may have heared this Hindu tale..Which goes like this When One religious person happend to cross a river by a boat and it happend that he had to converse with a rower.<br><br>He asked the rower , about his religion and about his Knowing of scriptures. When the rower replied <br>He has no Knowledge of them , he said that the rower has wasted his 2o yrs of Life.<br><br>Unfortunately in the mid of sailing that boat happened to drowm due to strong wind, When a rower asked the religious man , about his Knowing of Swiming , he said He doesn't Know How to swim.<br><br>So the Rower replied that the religious man Wasted his Whole Life By learning what is not required in reality and Jumped in to the river to cross.<br><br>Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Dear Imthi<br><br>Can you perhaps define what you mean by 'religion'? In "hinduism" it is a huge umbrella term encompassing a wide range of thoughts that are appropriate for different layers of consciouness. Even the 'self' that you talk about is part of "Hindu" thought. <br><br>That may clarify some of the ideas you are trying to share. <br><br>Tat Twam Asi<br><br>UMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Ref: 939<br><br>Dear Sir/Madam, and also Imthi_yaz,<br><br>Re: “This balance- Ones Body and Mind needs to learn from the life. This can't be done by means of any religion”<br>My perception is slightly different.<br>Ballroom dancing is really nothing very special as each and everyone dance it quite often in our day-to-day activities though subconsciously; like when holding hands and moving in a park, crossing streets, carrying a baby/infant, and so many other such moves. But this is not very easy for just any and everyone to comprehend. Therefore the dance is taught as a set of steps, counts, and with certain rule and regulations. After quite a bit of practise and experience is when the basics of natural body movements and daily affairs come as naturally in dancing as in day-to-day activities. Its only then when one is able to dance Ballroom, at random without any restrictions of rules and regulations needed for the dance, moving literally as one would wish to, depending on the music, mood and the situation; in short dancing purely for one’s self and for one’s enlightenment. This is when one comes back to square one.<br><br>But to complete this circle/cycle to be able to come back to square one, the adherence to a path is necessary like the initially strictly enforced rules and regulations, code of conduct, steps and pattern. Similarly each and every religions in this world is like the path to achieve a steady progress, to come back to achieve the purity and the sanctity of a child consciously.<br><br>To learn dancing one needs a teacher and also a certain commitment from the students. Similar is the case with any religion. If there is even a slight discordance in the commitments of the teacher and students the dance gets the bad name. Is it right?<br><br>Thank you, and with regards,<br>Jai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 Dear uma,<br><br> I mean the True Learning is not bound by any directions..<br><br>Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 I agree .. dear imthi.<br><br>Unfortunately we limit ourselves by putting ourselves in boxes with names on it. Then we try to defend it with our lives and land up doing exactly what goes against the TRUTH. Have you read a book called 'ONE' by Richard Bach? If you can find it, do consider reading chapter 6 or 7. (The whole book is wonderful too.)It's a bit too long for me to present here but a beautiful presentation.<br><br>Boxes with boundaries however have their own roles to play. They give a structure to those who prefer working within that framework. There is a sence of cohesiveness and security when one can call themselves part of a 'family'. <br><br>And then family starts fighting. lol <br><br>But isn't it in family that we have our toughest lessons to learn?<br><br>One day I guess we will all learn. Tat Twam Asi<br><br>Much love <br><br>UMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 yes uma, They are the toughest lessons in life .. They are there infront waiting for us to teach..every moment ....<br><br>In the Dark night <br>The Moon is appreciated<br>In the Bright day <br>The Sun is appreciated.<br>They Don't steal each others life .<br><br>regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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