Guest guest Posted July 11, 2001 Report Share Posted July 11, 2001 I have often come across the comments that "I do a good deed because God will give me the due benefits". What if there is no God? What if god, in the sense of a superhuman being, is a figment of our own creation? Will all good work stop?<br>Let us first be man. Man with all the intellect and understanding of the game of life. Look at nature and make things beautiful so that we may leave in joy and contentment. If we fail to keep up our values we create a world which will make us difficult to survive.<br>Even if there is no God look at the Big Bang theory and say we come from the same start and we are all brothers of the same boat -- all living and non living things. See, even particle and anti-particle some how have a common awareness. Let us be aware of ourselves as one. One mind in many bodies. Do we not feel alike; for example a given song, film, article or the like evoke the same sort of emotions in us. We must have the same roots somewhere. So what if there is a superhuman god or not we all belong to each other somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 Hi Arghyo! welcome back! hope your exams went <br>well!<br><br>>>What if god, in the sense of a superhuman being, is a figment of our own creation? Will all good work stop?>> <br><br>Do you think that people need to 'fear' something to stay on right path or do 'good'? Or putting it in another way, do people need a goal to motivate them into right action? Whether it is a 'God' that punishes or whether it is the accumulation of goood Karma. <br><br>Humans do have a common awareness, at the same time, unlike other levels of life they have the 'power of conscious choice'. I guess what I am curious about is do you think people will choose to do good purely for goodness' sake? <br><br>Lot's of questions, lots of sincere sadhaks .. so much for me to learn!!! <br><br>Tat twam asi<br>UMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 This question of "What if there is no God?" brings up other good questions. Many ask "Is there a God?" This is a perfectly valid question, but a better question would be "What is?" Then you refocus the search.<br><br>Anothe question is "Does man need to fear punishment or desire a reward to do good?" which brings up the question of human nature. Are we good when left to our own devices, or are we evil at the core needing to impose systems of right and wrong, government, religion, ethics etc. to make us good?<br><br>I cannot speak for the entire human race, even if we are all really one. I can speak for myself... even if that really does not exist. I do my best to do good every day, not because I fear punishment but because I care about my fellow beings. i have had experiances in which I shared a oneness with one being or another which has taught me love... not looking for a reward, but just love. I do things for the sake of doing them, not for the credit.... Ofcource, thid is not always true, I do have my ego (which does need a reward or punishment to be motivated). It's really very hard to explain. <br><br>But... what is good? What is evil? What is fear? In my opinion fear comes from the illusion of separation, and when we no longer carry that illusion, we act without fear and are motivated by love.<br><br>ok. I talk too much.<br><br>In love,<br>Audra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2001 Report Share Posted July 17, 2001 Both your and maddolphinpoet's mail have tried to seek the answer if man left to his own free will, without any form of retribution or control, would do good for mankind.<br>Yes, mankind would because the essence of man is Truth and Goodness. Upanisads time and again have said you are the "Amriteshwa Putra" or the children of the Infinity. What does a child carry from its parents -- the genes which have qualities of parent. So what else can the children of the Single Truth carry but Truth and Fearlessness!!<br>You dont need to be spiritual to understand this truth. look around and see how mother protects her baby -- all without any expectation -- and this is more instinctive than learned. The quality of Infinity to protect and love one that is its own. <br>The bottom line is "Is there any thing that is not Infinity?" The more refined the mind is so much more is it akin to the divine or Infinity.<br><br>I dare not try to explain the infinity, the Rig veda says, " That thing existed when nothing was there, neither the water nor the land, Darkness was covered by darkness, Only That existed like the breath, It was only aware of itself, Maybe not even That." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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