Spiritual approaches to 'thought'

[Guest guest]

Omprem: "But paying constant attention of the

flow of external and internal events of one’s life and

trying to see the world as dynamic whole seems to keep

one within time and space. One can wonder how that

leads to Self-Realization, a state of being beyond time

and space."<br><br>Here we an example of the

difficulty the prejudiced practioner of one spirtual path

has in understanding the subtlietys of another path.

<br><br>The thoughts that pass across your mind are not

"events". Thats the point. They are only thoughts. Your

attachment to them and consequent action (karma) is what

would make them an event. However to pretend that they

are not there is foolhardy because they are. The mind

that is without the movement of thought is in infact

the mind that is on one thought and therefore not

liberated. It is sometimes refered to as "false" nirvana.

Even the Buddha had thoughts flowing across the sky of

his mind. The big diffirance between him and us was

that he was liberated from them, he did not attach to

them.

[Guest guest]

Omprem: "At that time (i.e. when the thought

waves are stilled), the perceiver rests in his own true

nature." <br><br>Actually, no. The thought waves are the

radiance of your mind. Like the rays are the radiance of

the sun. You rest in your own true nature unaffected

by the action of your mind. Unattached to the

passing thoughts. <br><br>An examle of this would be,

when you are dying do you realy think that your mind

will not recognize this and have thoughts about it? Of

course it will. But the qusetion is will you attach to

those thoughts? Or will you rest in your own true

nature and watch the thoughts rise and fall.

[Guest guest]

i do not think that a human being can function

without thought. it is a neccesity, but, there has to be

a state where thought is only used as a utitlity

and that is all. i.e. thought is initiated when there

is stimulus and ends when the stimulus ends. it is a

switching on and off. but there has to be a state of mind

where though is just not present and there is the vast

emptiness that so many 'enlightened' ones speak of.

[Guest guest]

By: bullsheetbuddha<br>"Here we an example of the

difficulty the prejudiced practioner of one spirtual path

has in understanding the subtlietys of another

path."<br><br>Calling someone prejudiced for explaining how they see

two different paths does not encourage me to hear any

more of your words, bulsheetbuddha. Is it possible to

exchange views while refraining from this sort of

comment?<br><br>Om Amritanandamayi Namaha,<br>Seadna

[Guest guest]

devadasiwitch: "Is it possible to exchange views while refraining from this sort

of comment?"<br><br>Point taken.