Karma part 1

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Blessed Self, silentoppositon<br><br>1.

Science<br><br>The scientific enquiry that you value so much

continues to validate the messages of the Vedas. Every

scientific discovery, even those at the remote experimental

fringes of science have confirmed what the Vedas tell us.

There is no scientific discovery that has invalidated

anything contained in the Vedas.<br><br>Moreover, your

insistence on 'reason and realism, as you call it, is

seriously flawed. Every scientific discovery has used

reason and logic as only a first step. Those moments of

discovery, the 'Eureka' moments are the result of an

intuitive leap. Some would say that those moments are

instances of an unconscious accessing of the knowledge

contained in the chakras.<br><br>The greatest enemy that

Man has had in the last 400 years is Rene Descartes

and his insistence on reason above all. It is

interesting that Descartes arrived at this theory because of

an agreement that he made with the Church whereby he

would not comment on things that the Church considered

to be its domain in return for the Church allowing

him access to bodies for dissection.<br><br>2.

Consciousness<br><br>You continue to insist on a difference between

yourself and Tatwamasi on the topic of consciousness when,

in fact, there is only agreement. You say, "Our mind

is shaped by the objects that we work on. The tools

and implements that we use in day-to-day work and our

quest for work and to improve our work shapes our

consciousness." Tatwamasi says, ""But one does not realize that

the objective world appears out of the delusions of

one's own mind." The difference between the world of

senses "shaping the mind' and "deluding the mind" is

nil.<br><br>You only postulate a false disagreement on

consciousness in order to move into your real theme of

oppression of the masses, the downtrodden classes.<br><br>3.

Karma<br><br>The historical perspective that I gave did not show

inherent contradictions in religions. It showed that the

directly perceived Truth of karma and reincarnation

liberates the knower. To not know that Truth keeps the

uninformed in darkness and in self-imposed bondage to the

senses and the ego.<br><br>The Truth of karma and

reincarnation was vibrant enough to be kept alive by those

fortunate enough to know It even in the face of torture and

death. It was kept alive not only by the masses and the

groups that I mentioned but also by those considered to

be saints.<br><br>Once again you only use the

subject of karma to introduce your theories of

subjugation of the masses.<br><br><br>to be continued...