seeing is believing?

[Guest guest]

Respected siop (sounds like psychological

operations) "...your perceptions (which are a part of your

consciousness) are shaped by the material conditions in which

you live."<br><br>Nah!!!! i disagree. Have you ever

been to a magic show? The girl gets sawed in half!

It's true it's true! But then the box opens and the

girl climbs out!! <br><br>Our perceptions can deceive

us and often do. We see something and we try to make

sense of it. Like M.C. Esher's illusory pictures. But

our senses are imperfect and that has nothing to do

with whether i live in a mansion or a cardboard box. i

want to make sense of an impossible situation. i will

still believe i SAW that girl cut in two. But my brain

can be told that IT IS AN ILLUSION. A clever illusion

but an illusion nevertheless. <br><br>My role in life

does not change that belief that seeing is beliving,

knowledge changes that belief; seeing how the trick is

performed! My perception is only a slave to my being if i do

not seek out information. With knowledge my

consiousness is expanded. Then the next time i see this trick

i can say, ahhhh, good show!<br><br><br>peggy

[Guest guest]

Good example, Peggy. Point taken.<br>However, I

was not speaking of "seeing".<br>I was referring to

much broader concept of man's interaction with objects

of nature and its influence on the mind.<br>The

ideas in the mind are indeed an illusion, unlike what

the idealists believe.<br>See my other message about

man's interaction with nature shaping the consciousness

of society.<br>Interaction is basically for the

purpose of production because that is man's basic

need.<br>The consciousness that is thus shaped then takes a

life of its own and seem to be independent of the

material conditions.