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Thanks silentopposition, really, seshadri for a

turning things around and conducting a wonderfully

illuminating conversation, with restraint and respect for all

others present. Thanks omprem, peggy, mirabai for

participating. What is enlightening to some, may be

"boilerplate" to others and vica versa! .. it lies in the eyes

of the beholder! To me that is the power of

dialogue.<br><br>A commment about the scope of the subject in our

club, since it has been raised. You are all correct.

Sadhana is in fact all of life. In fact, each breath we

take, each action we take, each thought we have and

each emotion we enjoy, who we hang with, who we

support and encourage etc etc is all sadhana - practice.

Further, it includes all of life, all kinds of life,

ranging from that of a yogi and a King to that of a

beggar, thug, a prostitute, in fact even a terrorist.

Each one's experience is taking him/her closer and

closer to their ultimate goal of realizing their True

Selves, each at their own pace and time. <br><br>In our

club however, mainly for purposes of peace, we have to

keep the scope limited to certain general aspects of

sadhna. Comparitive political or religious debates of

rights or wrongs are not really the focus here.

Prolonged off-color jokes and barbs at each other are also

discouraged repeatedly, and if continued are to be deleted.

Intruders who do hit-and-run posting are also not welcome

here. They wouldn't have to run if they didn't think

they were doing something undesirable.<br><br>Thanks

Omprem for posting this quote by Martin Niemoller.

Reminds of a film we saw in class, about the role we play

in our community, who and what we support and what

happens when people wait for things to happen to them

before they take a stand against injustice!<br><br>There

are several interesting threads of conversations

going on, with something of interest to all. Looking

forward for lots of participation from all!<br><br>_/\_

Tat twam asi<br><br>Uma

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