Guest guest Posted November 6, 2001 Report Share Posted November 6, 2001 Pratyahara - "When separated from their corresponding objects, the organs follow, as it were, the Nature of the Mind, that is called Pratyahara." On Practice - 54; Patanjali Yoga Sutra. <br><br>"Just as bees follow the course of the queen bee and rest when the latter rests, so when the mind stops the senses also stop their activities." <br><br>At this stage all it takes is a mental resolution, an intention, and the senses follow. When it says to center itself on the internal regions, the senses no longer perceive external objects.<br><br>To reach this stage however, takes Discipline. In fact having talked about the role of Humility in saadhanaa this brings me to the importance of the part played by systematic, regular practice of whichever path one chooses.<br><br>Discipline is not a popular word among most people. In fact most of us (myself included) tend to resist this aspect of saadhanaa more than anything else and have to make conscious efforts to be regular. We are aware of little babies, and how discipline and routine in daily activities helps in their healthy development. Somewhere down the line we tend to dump that need and resist all attempts at systematic practice of even our daily activites. <br><br>Why is that? Is it an inner klesha - a vasana from one's karmic bagggage? Have we become so tuned into our generation's concepts of instant gratification that unless we see immediate results, we do not stick with a practice? Have we built an expectation of the potentialities of God-realization that we hold that ideal upto all our experiences and are unhappy unless we have them the way we "expect" them to be? Instead of practicing for the sake of it, we find ourselves get caught up in the fruits of our labor. As if a competition, sometimes just with our own selves. And the more attached we get to the goal in "getting there", the more we retract backwards. <br><br>How important is discipline in one's spiritual practice? What can be done to get around this tendency against it?<br><br>Important question for serious sadhaks .. what do you all feel?<br><br>_/\_ Tat twam asi<br><br>Uma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Dear Uma,<br><br>Yes it is true that one needs discipline in sadhana. For one to progress on the spiritual path one needs to possess qualities of a seeker too. Listing down the following from the source <br><br><a href=http://www.sanatan.org/weekly target=new>http://www.sanatan.org/weekly</a> (Issue # 73)<br><br>Question: What are the qualities of a seeker? <br>Answer: <br>To become a disciple and attain the grace of a Guru one must first become a good seeker. The qualities of a good seeker are as follows - <br>1. Belief<br>2. Faith<br>3. Obedience to the spiritually evolved<br>4. Overcoming the obstacle of the intellect<br>5. Perseverance<br>6. Immediately putting into practice what is taught <br><br>A general guideline to develop these qualities is given below -<br><br>Belief - Belief is developed through verbal knowledge. Thus, to develop belief about the importance of spiritual practice one could study spiritual texts, attend satsangs where spiritual concepts are discussed and clarification is given on doubts about Spirituality, etc. <br> <br>Faith - Unlike belief, faith is much subtler and cannot be developed through just listening or reading about Spirituality. Faith is developed by spiritual experience and the only way to get spiritual experiences is to do spiritual practice. <br>For example - When a seeker was advised to resort to chanting intensely for three days consecutively to overcome any problem in her spiritual journey, though she believed that it could happen, she did not have faith, as she had never experienced it. Deciding to put the guidance to the test, the next time she faced an obstacle in Spirituality she chanted intensely for three days and it actually worked by bringing forth a permanent solution to the problem. Ever since, the seeker always employs this technique when facing any major problem in her spiritual journey and has found that it always works. Thus, she now has faith in the power of the Lord's Name to help her overcome and achieve anything. <br> <br> To be continued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Continued from above<br>Obeying the Spiritually evolved - Obedience is the most important quality for a seeker to qualify as a disciple. Obedience in Spirituality refers to unconditional acceptance and execution of guidance. This can be achieved in stages as follows.<br>Execution of the guidance if one agrees with it. <br>Execution of the guidance after asking questions if one does not agree with it. <br>Execution of the guidance even if one disagrees and asking questions later. <br>Execution of the guidance even if one disagrees to see what one has learnt from it. <br>Unconditional execution of the guidance - at this stage one has complete faith that the guidance is for the best and can never disagree with it. <br>One could start with following one's spiritual guide or the seeker in charge of the satsang one attends. For example, if the satsang conductor says that so and so seeker should prepare a particular topic for the next satsang, the seeker should do it, as a part of practicing obedience. After every conversation with one's spiritual guide one should introspect to see how many points one agrees on and execute immediately, how many one had questions on and how many one disagreed on. Accordingly, one should make a plan to execute the points over a reasonable period of time.<br><br> Overcoming the obstacle of the intellect - <br>The intellect plays a major role in one's progress in worldly matters. The more one uses the intellect the more one progresses. However, in Spirituality it is just the opposite. <br>Use of intellect in Spirituality - The most important and probably the only use of the intellect in Spirituality is to develop the conviction that one needs to do spiritual practice. <br>Obstacle of intellect - If the intellect is used as a means of comprehension in Spirituality one would hardly make any progress. In fact, it could even prove detrimental to one's progress, as Spirituality is a subtle science, beyond the comprehension of the five senses, mind and intellect. For example, it would be quite difficult if one tries to understand the significance of one's religion of birth in selecting the particular Name of the Lord for chanting. But if one accepted the fact and tried it, he would experience for himself the importance of chanting as per one's religion.<br>Overcoming the obstacle of unnecessary insistence on the intellect can be achieved in stages as follows. <br>Having an open mind - Accepting the fact that even if one does not understand and agree on something now, given the fact that it has been written by evolved souls that have experienced the truth behind it, it must be true and that one would understand it at later stage. <br>Developing a sâttvik intellect - Intellect can be tâmasik, râjasik or sâttvik. Tâmasik intellect means that one uses his intellect to harm others, râjasik intellect means that the intellect is used for one's worldly benefit and sâttvik intellect is one that is used for his spiritual progress. The intellect is made sâttvik by studying holy or spiritual texts, the implied meanings of the verses therein, any guidance one has received, incidents, etc. and using the intellect to spread Spirituality. <br><br>To be continued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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