Guest guest Posted November 28, 2001 Report Share Posted November 28, 2001 “I am the lone survivor. Instead of allowing my property to be squandered after my death, it would be better if I created a Trust. It is a good way of helping poor people” – thought that rich man. He was, however, cautious enough not to let anybody know about his intent. He disclosed his intent to his Guru.<br><br>The Guru looked at the millionaire compassionately and said, “A very good idea indeed. It will be helpful for a handful of people, and you will be remembered for generations to come. But why are you telling me all this?” asked the Guru innocently. <br><br><br>“In today’s world, how can anybody trust the trustees? I thought it would be better if I make the Trust as a part of your institution….” the millionaire had not finished his sentence yet.<br><br><br>“Your intentions are indeed very lofty. Do you really think that I have the eligibility to undertake such charitable activities?” the Guru sighed. <br><br><br>“Guruji, I am prepared to surrender all my wealth at your feet,” said the millionaire.<br><br><br>“I am referring to eligibility. Anyway, I have to go to the temple now. Do you want to go with me?” asked the Guru, getting up. “Whatever you say, Guruji” said the millionaire and followed the Guru to the temple. The Guru looked at the beggars sitting on the pavement and said, “poor things!”. Immediately, the millionaire took out his wallet and pulled out a twenty-rupee bill and put it into the beggars bowl, and looked at his Guru to see if there was any sign of appreciation in His face. Guruji was not even looking at him. He was walking towards the temple. The millionaire hastened his steps and continued following the Guru. <br><br><br>Guru: You gave a twenty-rupee bill, but you didn’t prostrate before him. Why?<br><br><br>Millionaire: Prostration! To whom, Guruji?<br><br><br>Guru: Whom did you give that money to?<br><br><br>Millionaire: To that blind beggar.<br><br><br>Guru: What do you get by giving money to a blind beggar?<br><br><br>Millionaire: They say that one will earn merit by giving away alms to beggars….?<br><br><br>Guru: Oh! I see! So you are buying merit (punya) by giving twenty rupees! Does he have a storehouse of merit?<br><br><br>Millionaire: They say that gods will be pleased if one gives alms to poor people.<br><br><br>Guru: So it means that you are giving alms to the God who resides in that beggar! Very well. But don’t you think that you should prostrate to that God?<br><br><br>Millionaire: He is after all a blind person?<br><br><br>Guru: What about the God who resides in that blind beggar? Is He blind too? <br><br><br>Millionaire: It is not like that. Even if we prostrate, the blind beggar will not know.<br><br><br>Guru: How are you so sure that he is really blind? He may just be pretending as though he is blind. <br><br><br>Millionaire: Do you say then, Guruji that I should prostrate before an imposter even when I am suspicious?<br><br><br>Guru: If you are suspicious, should you refrain from giving alms? The suspicion may be may not be real. It may be real also. Whatever it is, if you are unable to see God in him, why should you give alms in the first place? If you are able to see God, does it mean that you need not give alms?<br><br><br>Millionaire: Am I wrong in being charitable?<br><br><br>Guru: Being charitable is neither right nor wrong. But, before one does charity, one must first earn the eligibility. One must be able to see God in the person to whom one does charity. When one sees God, one will certainly prostrate before that person. That itself is the eligibility to being charitable. If this eligibility is not there, it is one and the same whether you give alms to a beggar or form a Charitable Trust!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 >>But, before one does charity, one must first earn the eligibility. One must be able to see God in the person to whom one does charity.>><br><br>Charity is extended for many reasons which are often far removed from a perfected sense of Being. People who have stolen or lived a life otherwise filled with negativity during the work days may give charity during the weekend pujas; or given Dana (charitable offerings) to get brownie points from "God". Others wait for Dana requirements as part of festivals or make offerings during or after a period of intense trial as offerings. And of course there are those who give large donations to pamper their ego and display their wealth.<br><br>While ideally all giving and receiving is to and from "God" alone, I can't quite agree that one need wait to give charity till we "first earn the eligibility". We are all at various stages of growth since if we were already perfected we would have little reason to be on planet Earth, working out our Karma. Even though some circumstances may appear to be hypocritical, I feel charity by itself is a learning process, a process which becomes a tool for spiritual growth. From a space of ego or self aggrandizement, charity can lead one to compassion and caring for fellow humans and onwards as they progress to seeing "tat twam asi". Simply assuming the attitude often leads to people learning the attitude itself.<br><br>From energy perpectives, giving and receiving is the circular causal flow of energy. Unless one allow it to flow outwards, the flow inwards is restricted. <br><br>The intention behind the act certainly determines the benifit received as the parable beautifully demonstrates, but if one can start "giving" for whatever one reasons may be, ultimately they will surely reach the ideal goal. <br><br>Any thoughts?<br><br>_/\_ Tat twam asi<br><br>Uma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2001 Report Share Posted December 2, 2001 This is my interpretation of the story. if i am wrong in my interpretation then please correct me.<br><br>The conversation between the guru and his wealthy disciple is not for discouraging charity until one becomes eligible for charity. <br>The millionaire in the story was full of ego. Hence the Guru wanted to teach him the lesson<br>that in whatever service we do to others there should be devotion to God and by thinking that we are serving God by doing service to the people. <br><br>Doing service for the welfare of others is by itself a great punya. But it becomes more valuable when it is done selflessly.<br><br>Om Shakti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2001 Report Share Posted December 3, 2001 There is a spiritual law that attends giving in that whatever you give, of yourself - good or bad - of your finances - much or little - it really doesnt matter. What you give will be given back to you will good measure. Gives one pause to think. It is most guaranteed that if you give something bad, you will certainly receive tons worse than you gave. Conversely, to give something good, there too will you gain in return, more than you gave.<br><br>I think that as important as giving is, one need to learn how to receive also.<br><br>vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2001 Report Share Posted December 4, 2001 Part of living a spiritual existance, in my opinion is not to attach "reward" to giving. Do not give so that you may receive, give out of your heart for loves sake only. Attachment to the outcome should be looked at as well in love, mirabai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 mirabai,<br><br>I agree, we should not give out of a selfish motive at all.....but the fact remains that it is a spiritual principal and like a 2-edged sword, it works both ways. Give that which is good and you will receive accordingly. Give that which is bad (ie trouble/grief) and again you will receive accordingly. More often than not we receive more than we dish out, no matter whether it is good or bad. And, it does not matter if we give from or wallet or of ourself. <br><br>When one has it as part of their practice to give, the outcome ceases to be important. It is not what we give (that is good) counts but that we give at all.<br><br>vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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