Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 At the other, enlightened end of the scale from from Bush et al, is the example of Swami Sivanada. He was engaged in satsang with the people of Rishikesh at his ashram when a disgruntled man attacked him with an axe. Swami Sivananda made no effort to protect himself. But his disciples quickly disarmed the man. At that moment, Swami Sivananda was fully identified with Brahman and regarded his body as being of no consequence (if he regarded it at all). It made no difference to him whether he had a body or not because either way he was identified with Brahman. His disciples, on the other hand , were less enlightened, jumped in to save Swami Sivananda’s temporal body. Even in the face of death, Swami Sivananda continued to teach. One of the kleshas that Patanjali says that we have to overcome in order to be Fully-Realized is abhinivesah, fear of death, or, more precisely, fear of loss of identity. But the reactions to the events of September 11 focus on death and avoiding future deaths. There reactions contain the seeds of future karma.<br><br>Your other point of questioning the response to ‘natural phenomena’ such as earthquakes, etc. shows an awareness of the karmic genesis of such events. But throughout your posts on this subject, you seem to be asking for a perspective not only on karma but also for a perspective on your own awareness of karma. In other words, a perspective on who you are. Again, you provide your own answer through your i.d, Tat Twam Asi or That Thou Art. <br><br>Sri Ramana Maharshi advocated atma-vichara or self-inquiry. Not in the sense of asking, “Who am I?” but in the sense of asking, “Who is aware of all this.” The object is to find out who is aware of the body, thoughts, emotions, ideas, images and the subtle energy phenomena. The idea is to withdraw your attention and awareness from all events, objects, and phenomena and concentrate on awareness itself. Eventually it becomes clear you are that pure formless awareness. The trick in life is to maintain that awareness of yourself as awareness and still move through the events of your daily life without stooping to identify with those events. You must not believe that you are the doer of actions. You must recognize constantly that you are not this body or mind but That which is aware of the body or mind.<br><br>Finally, I just want to comment on the some of the replies that you have receive to your questions. The cryptic comments of Baba108 I find less than useful. These comments seems to me to be attempts of someone who is not Fully-Realized to imitate the comments of someone who is Fully-Realized. They do not have the ring of authenticity and authority about them. Having known people who are Fully-Realized and who embark on a teaching or stewardship role, I can say that they would not answer in such an unhelpful manner. The comments of s v c s are more to the point and consist of helpful quotations from Sri Ramana Maharshi as well as interpreting the Bhagavad Gita for us.<br><br>Hari Om Tat Sat<br><br>omprem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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