Guest guest Posted February 26, 2002 Report Share Posted February 26, 2002 “A traditional Swedish Story gives a sense of the next phase of the journey. Because of the mishaps of the parents, a young princess named Aris must be betrothed to a fearful dragon. When the King and Queen tell her, she becomes frightened for her life. But recovering her wits, she goes out beyond the market to seek a wise woman, who has raised twelve children and twenty-nine grandchildren, and knows the ways of the dragons and men. <br><br>A wise woman tells Aris, that she must indeed marry the dragon, but there are proper ways to approach him. She then gives instructions for the wedding night. In particular the princess is bidden to wear ten beautiful gowns, one on top of another.<br><br>The wedding takes place. A feast is held in the palace, after which the dragon carries the princess off to his bedchamber. When the dragon advances to his bride, she stops him saying she must carefully remove her wedding attire before offering her heart to him. And he too, (instructed by the wise woman), must properly remove his attire. To this he willingly agrees.<br><br>“As I take off each layer of my gown, you must also remove a layer.” Then taking off the first gown the princes watches as the dragon sheds his first layer of scaly armor. Though it is painful the dragon has done this periodically before. But then the princess removes another gown, and then another. Each time the dragon find he too must claw off a deeper layer of scales. By the fifth gown the dragon begins to weep copious tears at the pain. Yet the princess continues.<br><br>With each successive layer the dragon’s skin becomes more tender and his skin softens. He becomes lighter and lighter. When the princess removes her tenth gown, the dragon releases the last vestige of dragon form and emerges as a man, a fine prince whose eyes sparkle like a child’s, released at last from the ancient spell of his dragon form. Princess Aris and her new husband are left to the pleasures of the bridal chamber to fulfill their last advices of the wise woman. …….<br><br>It (the spiritual journey) is described as a difficult purification: cleansing, letting go and stripping away. … It is painful to cast off our scales, and the dragons guarding the way are fierce. It requires the inspiration of angels; it requires diving into the ocean of tears.”<br><br>… “After the Ecstasy, the Laundry” by Jack Kornfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Very enlightenting story. I too have one which conveys the essentials of individual approach to the Path.Soon I shall be posting the same.<br>Meearbai.prasad and my all other respondent to my "deep sorrow" msgs, are worthy of my love and i would like to reciprocate with thanks.My sorrow has vanished, and now i am thinking that some Aris shall ask me to shed the "layers".Fearing the pain,I ask the Aris not to go for a wedding at all. <br>S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 >>>Fearing the pain,I ask the Aris not to go for a wedding at all>>>><br><br>FEAR!!! Is that what prevents most people from taking the next step - to the divine wedding? <br><br>_/\_<br><br>Uma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 yes.we have a simily like this.the onion.it is told by sri ramakrishna and by osho too.we can understnad the mind like an onion.as an onion<br>mind too has many layers.outer layers are thick<br>and hard to remove.when we remove outer one we find a bit softer layer.like this by removing one by one we find the softest.and finally we find the emptiness.the mind too is same thing.outer layers willbe harder.and we get pain while removing them.layer by layer they willbe softer and easy to remove.and finally we remain as emptiness or silence.those who are doing any practice to know the god or truth has to remember this simily.b'cos they have to bare pain in the first.but they need not loose faith in god.they need not loose faith in that they are forms of emptiness or silence.<br>but i think we need not see the mind as an obstacle to know the god.it is a media.we are the witness using the mind.when we are attached to world we willbe in darkness..see..really the whole universe is in darkness..and from darkness we cant see the beauty of life and cant see even the god.but when we,the witness,reached the light of god,we can see the god beauty of life.so removing the layers of mind means,realising the reality of world and god.state of witness in mind will change but the mind doesnt change.because it is only a media.<br>thanks umaji.your post made me thinking deeply.<br>love to all<br>prasad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Hello Prasadbvv,You have said a simily for the robes of the Aris, and pointed to Onion as an example.Here, I humbly wish to point out that the layers should not be taken as layers of mind only, but for the whole conciousness.In fact seven layers of conciousness have been decribed in yogic literature. These layers are called as "Asmaan" in Sufism and Islamic philosophy.Thus for me, Aris had weared 7 robes one on the other.In vedic terminology a "body" is supposed to consist of 3 "kosh".viz."anna maya kosh","pran maya kosh" and "mano maya kosh".Each "kosh" has 2 plains(layers),thus in all the body consists of seven plains of conciousness.Seventh Plain is the plain of Divine.. and here He is experianced.<br> I have taken the story of Aris and the dragon in the same context.<br>love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Om Safar_x<br><br>Your explanation of the koshas is close but not quite correct.<br><br>A human being has an atman (soul), encased in 3 bodies and 5 sheaths.<br><br>The first body is the physical body or Stula Sharira or Annamaya Kosha. 'Anna' means 'food' so this is the food sheath.<br><br>The second body is the astral body, also called the Linga Sharia or Sukshma Sharira. It consists of<br><br>(1) the Pranamaya Kosha (nadis, chakras, the 5 vital pranas, plus the 5 Karma Indriyas or organs or action - mouth, hands, feet, organs of evacuation and generation);<br><br>(2) the Manomaya Kosha (Manas - mind, Chitta - subconscious, 5 Jnana Indriyas or organs of knowledge - eyes, ears, nose, smell, tongue, skin; and <br><br>(3) the Vijnanamaya Kosha (Buddhi - intellect and Ahamkara - ego.<br><br>NOTE:The Antahkarana or Inner Instrument is composed of the Manas (mind) and Chitta (subconscious) from the Manomaya Kosha plus the Buddhi (intellect), and Ahamkara (ego) from the Vijnanamaya Kosha.<br><br>The third body is the Karana Sharira (causal body) or Anandamaya Kosha (Bliss sheath) within which is the Atman (soul).<br><br>The Linga Sharira and the Karana Sharira are permanent and are what travels to the astral worlds after death. All your thoughts, emotions and actions are recorded in the subconscious and survive death. It is these that guide one to one's karmic destiny. It is only the Stula Sharira or physical body that dies.<br><br>Jaya Maa<br><br>Omprem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Omprem you are perfectly correct. I forgot 3 shariras while enumerating the plains of conciousness. Thank ytou very much for correcting me...It's always lovly for me to hear about my mistakes.<br>love <br>S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Om Safar_x<br><br>Mistakes are nothing. No need for judging, regretting, or devaluing oneself as a result of mistakes. Emphasis the Truth (as you do) and all else is inconsequential.<br><br>Omprem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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