Guest guest Posted March 10, 2002 Report Share Posted March 10, 2002 Sometimes one's circumstances makes one feel "deserted" by "GOD". The following story illustrates the dillemma. **A woman is woken up by her husband having a bad dream. He screams, "Help, I'm being bitten by a snake!!! Take me to the hospital!!!!" He continues, his screams turning to helpless cries, "Please!! help please help! Get the doctor!!! Take me to the hospital, I'm dying!!!! The woman gently makes him comfortable, turns him around, but does not take him to the doctor because she knows it is only a dream. He is so focused on his dream he isn't comforted and curses her again and again .. for not taking him to hospital. But she KNOWS he will wake up and realize that, but untill then, he has to go through the expererience of pain. She knows his misery and despair is not real, but she can't do anything about the dream. He has to experience it. She holds him, supports him gently till he finally wakes up and realizes the Truth. It was only a dream. ** Can we sometimes identify with the husband's pleas? _/\_ Tat twam asi Uma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 Uma...i do not agree with "Can God desert us"....I take all and everything happening inside GOD....who will then desert...and whom ? I remember once a Great soul saying," I am not afraid of down- falls.... where will I fall...from God's shoulder's to god's lap ??....well that will be more enjoying." Our very being is due to God present in us as our Chetna...hence there is never any desertion. Hari Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 Thank you Uma for bringing up this lovely topic. In this world of pairs, joy and sorrow, pleasure and pain etc alternate with each other. Just like how all days are NOT warm and sunny, and there are cloudy days too, we also experience feelings of desertion by God at times. The clouds of ignorance and chaos at times, seem to gather in our sky of mind, and hinder the knowledgeable rays from the sun of Brahman. Then we feel enveloped in the darkness of sorrow and pain. In those moments of grief, one mustn't loathe or brood, but instead must gather the strong winds of Faith and Devotion. Turn it against the clouds, and in no time the clouds will scatter, enabling the sun to shine right thro' :-) Just like how mild winds do not blow the clouds away, in fact help in the gathering of the small clouds, so too weak faith and devotion only fester uncertainty and grief. If one knows not how to do sadhna in those times, one can at least indulge in Namasmarana or chanting of the Lord's Holy name. But sometimes, it's not just cloudy. There happens to be a cyclone, which typically lasts longer. Under those circumstances, when the feeling of desertion is strong, a doubt tends to arise in the mind, as to whether God is actually listening to our prayers or not. All the wonderful things said about our karma being destroyed etc. remain as mere words, as in reality our suffering just hasn't ceased. In those instances, one may feel that ones' prayers have remained unanswered. When one is in such a situation, one thing one can remember is this : "Let's assume one has to break asunder a rock with a hammer, or axe or whatever tool is used. One keeps on hitting the rock, and only on the 21st strike (let's assume it broke at the 21st strike), the rock broke. That does not mean that only the 21st strike was powerful and that all the other strikes were useless. If not for the earlier 20 strokes, the 21st strike would not have been successful. But the effects of them weren't seen, as they helped in developing subtle cracks inside the rock. Only from the let's say 19th strike, cracks were visible on the outside, and the 21st strike broke the rock into pieces. Just like how the 19 strikes developed internal cracks, so too when we pray, there are subtle changes that we cannot perceive. Only with successive strikes, the internal cracks spread onto the exterior, and it finally gives way. So too with successive prayer/ constant devotion, the subtle changes, take a concrete shape, and only then will we be able to perceive it. Until then we need to hold on. " So let's not blame God if our prayer remains unanswered, instead let's doubt our sincerity. Let's hold on to our devotion and faith, and let's win over destiny. Hari Aum !!! , "tatwamasi" <tatwamasi> wrote: > Sometimes one's circumstances makes one feel "deserted" by "GOD". The > following story illustrates the dillemma. > > **A woman is woken up by her husband having a bad dream. He > screams, "Help, I'm being bitten by a snake!!! Take me to the > hospital!!!!" > > He continues, his screams turning to helpless cries, "Please!! help > please help! Get the doctor!!! Take me to the hospital, I'm > dying!!!! > > The woman gently makes him comfortable, turns him around, but does > not take him to the doctor because she knows it is only a dream. > > He is so focused on his dream he isn't comforted and curses her again > and again .. for not taking him to hospital. > > But she KNOWS he will wake up and realize that, but untill then, he > has to go through the expererience of pain. She knows his misery and > despair is not real, but she can't do anything about the dream. He > has to experience it. She holds him, supports him gently till he > finally wakes up and realizes the Truth. > > It was only a dream. ** > > Can we sometimes identify with the husband's pleas? > > _/\_ Tat twam asi > > Uma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2002 Report Share Posted March 11, 2002 It is natural for most people to wonder at times whether MAA has deserted them. We even react with Anger. You must have heard of Ninda Studhi where the poet abuses God. A child gets angry with its mother when it is refused something. It even accuses the mother of desertion. But when the anger passes it comes back to the mother. So do we. In Tamil there is a song by Barathiar, which goes as under: Midimaiyum Achamum mevi en Nenjil kudimai pukundana Kondaravai pokku enru Ninnai charanaidenden, KANNAMMA then cheyil enni thavippathu theerthigu, nincheyal cheythu niraivuperum vannam Ninnai charanaidenden, KANNAMMA Nallathu theeyathu namariyom, annai, nallthu nattuka theemaiyi oottuka Ninnai charanaidenden, KANNAMMA This means MAA I am beset with cowardice and fear , remove these I surrender to you Instead of worrying over the consequences of my action, please take your action to make my life whole. I surrender to you I do not know what is good and what is bad. Please establish good things and drive away bad things. I surrender to you. The poet addresses Devi as Kannamma that is Krishna as MAA. This is my Daily prayer. If we develop this attitude then the question of MAA deserting us will never rise in our mind. Jai MAA KAALI !!! Sankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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