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Thanks simhmam..yes i agree with you and it was wrong to

use "Downfall of Hinduism" by me, though i wished to say Downfall of

our values of Hinduism by a majority of Hindus.

 

I remember a few months before, when some miscreant muslims

started the club "Awaited Kalki avtaar" and presented all type of

misinformation and misleading facts about hinduism, I decided that we

should do something to stop it. The best course thought by me was to

complain to (who hardly listen to complaints though ). so I

discussed this matter with a few of my learned friends. I was almost

shocked to find the tolerance (read cowardice) of our Hindu friends

one of whom was of the view "Muslims have every right to come to

Hindu clubs and say whatever they liked",...the other a learned

Vedanta scholar gave me a big lecture on how to treat all this as

maya ! Well since I am not that learned one, i could not digest

those views and went ahead with my own action.

 

I then remembered Mahabharata...when Arjuna was down with

misconception and confusion and asks Krishna " If the kingdom is won

by death of fellows and relatives..i do not need it. Krishna could

have said," Yes all this is Maya...forget this war and become a

Sanyasin...think of Brahma as all" Why did Krishna not advise

Arjuna to take all that war as Maya....because the Great Guru knew,

the cowardice and Moha hidden behind the words of Arjuna...He could

have advised him to renunciate the world at that juncture and forget

war....BUT Krishna as HE was...he knew that Jiva (individual soul)

has to fulfil his present Dharma....He woke him up and asked him to

fight and kill the enemies.

 

Lord Rama, another incarnation of God...when his wife Sita was

kidnapped by Ravana...he could have very well taken it as Maya and

said," OK dear Ravana....it is all Maya...there is no wife..no enemy

all his Brahma" Instead he wept like a child ....searched his

wife...made an army of monkeys etc. and destroyed Ravana. Why did

Rama not evade that war...if all is Maya.

 

God by these example showed us to apply correct philosophy at

the correct time. But most of us did not take that

philosophy...When Muslim Invaders were coming to loot Somanath

temple, the priests there were simply chanting OM Namah shivaya...and

said," Shiva will destroy the muslims" But shiva did not !!! Instead

Muslim invaders plundered the temple and killed all the priests.

 

Our problem is that we apply our philosophy at the wrong

times....when neighbour's son dies...we simply say it was his

Karma...and when something wrong happens to us we start blaming God.

When there is time to fight...we give lecture on Vedanta..and when

Vedanta is to be applied we start taking our personal revenges.

 

The world is NO MAYA...if god has made us conscious at this level

it is our Dharma to fulfil our duty with devotion...if it is a

war...if it is spreading love..or it is looking after the

children...all these duties are to be done as Dharma.

 

If world is struggle...then it is for this struggle that GOD has

sent us to Earthly consciousness. He does not want us to escape our

wars with negativity...in the name of MAYA.

 

Nahin ??

 

Hari Aum

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> Our problem is that we apply our philosophy at the wrong

> times....when neighbour's son dies...we simply say it was his

> Karma...and when something wrong happens to us we start blaming

>God. When there is time to fight...we give lecture on Vedanta..and

>when Vedanta is to be applied we start taking our personal

>revenges.>>

 

I love it silentsoulji, when you call a spade a spade and don't beat

around the bush! Welcome back !

 

My question is what is it that makes us do that? Is it because we

don't really understand the principles? Is it because we are afraid

to truly apply the appropriate principles at the right time? Or is it

the job of different groups of people to react in different ways to

keep a balance in our universe. I can't imagine Vedantins fighting a

war on "themselves", nor can I imagine Karma Yogis blaming anyone for

their experiences. As I had asked earlier, I wonder if the

occupations prescribed in the shastras, (priests/teachers, warriors,

traders and workers), were made so that the various roles in

karmasthan (place where one works out one's karma), were addressed by

people with appropriate temperaments.

 

Love

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma

 

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Uma you asked ," My question is what is it that makes us do that? Is

it because we don't really understand the principles? Is it because

we are afraid to truly apply the appropriate principles at the right

time?""

 

Well to understand this problems, and then finding a solution to

this... is called Sadhna. Sadhna as you once said in one of your

posts is not sitting quietly in the meditation room, but applying it

to worldly affairs.

 

And when we start applying our philosophy to practical terms, we

find that the world is full of contradictions...Our egoistical mind

takes over from us, and presents a picture truely deformed and well

tailored to our ego satisfication.....to tell us we are always right

and others necessarily wrong. Our mind presents us all those

philosophies which suit our ego-needs.

 

The final aim of Mother Nature is to make us one with the

Universe, where we will feel one with all living and non-living

entities of the universe...where we will feel the grief and joys of

creation (a consciousness said to be of God)....and we can offer our

share of Ahuti in this Yagya of Mother Nature, by understanding the

pains and joys of others...not only of our own.

 

And as long as we live for our joys and and our pains, Mother will

continue presenting different circumstances before us so that we

understand. If we start feeling one with other's pains and joys,

perhaps we would be presenting a short cut for Mother to expedite our

journey.

 

One example will explain this...when Talibaan hijacked Indian

Airlines plane to Afganistan and killed a man before his newly wed

wife, Americans dismissed this as a political disturbance of Indian

concern only....they did not see an angle of terrorism and anti-

humanity in this and remained cruelly stoic to this incident not

feeling the pain of the unfortunate passangers and did not act to

wipe tears of the woman, whose husband was brutally murdered before

her eyes, on the pretext of Islamic Jehaad.

 

And Mother Nature presented the same circumstances to american,

soon and then every american was having tears in his eyes. The

incident of 11 september was most unfortunate, but it was to tell

americans to be aware of other's pains. Then american president on

his visit to India, met that widow and assured her of revenge for her

husband...and then the taalibaans who did not feel pain of those whom

they killed, were destroyed on their own land by usa...and so on.

 

We can find such examples in our day to day life....when ever we

see some one in distress and we even after being in a position to

wipe off his tears, do not feel his pain ....Mother will present the

same situation before us to feel that pain..

 

Perhaps this is the seed of the continuation of the

Universe......The more and more we feel connected to others..the

lesser will be our own pains and sorrows and we may get more free

time to think of the Supreme...or rather we will be becoming one

slowly..

 

Hari Aum

 

 

 

, "tatwamasi" <tatwamasi> wrote:

>

>

> > Our problem is that we apply our philosophy at the wrong

> > times....when neighbour's son dies...we simply say it was his

> > Karma...and when something wrong happens to us we start blaming

> >God. When there is time to fight...we give lecture on Vedanta..and

> >when Vedanta is to be applied we start taking our personal

> >revenges.>>

>

> I love it silentsoulji, when you call a spade a spade and don't

beat

> around the bush! Welcome back !

>

> My question is what is it that makes us do that? Is it because we

> don't really understand the principles? Is it because we are afraid

> to truly apply the appropriate principles at the right time? Or is

it

> the job of different groups of people to react in different ways to

> keep a balance in our universe. I can't imagine Vedantins fighting

a

> war on "themselves", nor can I imagine Karma Yogis blaming anyone

for

> their experiences. As I had asked earlier, I wonder if the

> occupations prescribed in the shastras, (priests/teachers,

warriors,

> traders and workers), were made so that the various roles in

> karmasthan (place where one works out one's karma), were addressed

by

> people with appropriate temperaments.

>

> Love

>

> _/\_ Tat twam asi

>

> Uma

>

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> This is a reply to post no. 3374 by silentsoul_55

> **************************************************

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