Guest guest Posted March 13, 2002 Report Share Posted March 13, 2002 > I have always hesitated to post anything in this club because all > postings are so well written from so learned people.whenever I > attempted to post anything, I worked on it as if it were for my > school examinations Hi Angelina! Welcome and thank you for joining in the discusion. You are right. We are blessed with some wonderful, eloquent writers with a beautiful command of the langage. However our club is for all. Sadhna has little to do with eloquence, it has to do with practice and experience. And that can be expressed in the simplest of language. I want to bring this to the notice of all, because this is a complaint I hear very often by many of our members. Perhaps I haven't been able to do a good job in reassuring our members that all posts are welcome and pllllease don't worry about writing abilities. This is not a essay contest. All that is needed is a simple expression of ideas, knowledge and experience. I can only keep repeating that and hope that other members also understand and join in the discussions. _/\_ Tat twam asi Uma ******************************************** This is reply to Post #3393 by de_spell_2000 ******************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 >>Sadhna has little to do with eloquence, it has to do with practice and experience.<< I remember a small story that relates to what u've said above: A learned Pundit was once giving discourses on Bhagavad Geetha in the august presence of a Maharaja (King). One day was the turn of this sloka : Ananyaaschinthayantho maam Ye janaah paryupaasathe Theshaam nithyaabhiyukthaanaam Yogakshemam vahamyaham. The Pundit was explaining enthusiastically the many-sided implications of this sloka, but the Maharaja shook his head and said: "This meaning is not correct." He continued to dispute the correctness of every one of the explanations the Pundit gave. The poor Pundit had won meritorious distinctions at the court of many a Maharaja and was honoured by them all with pompous titles. He felt as if he was stabbed when the Maharaja in the presence of the entire band of courtiers condemned his explanation of this sloka a 'wrong'. He smarted under the insult; but plucking up courage, he again set upon his task, and marshalling all his scholarship, he plunged into an eloquent discourse on the multiple meaning of the words, "Yoga" and "Kshema." The Maharaja did not approve of even this; he ordered: "Find out the meaning of this sloka and having understood it well, come to me again tomorrow." With this, the Maharaja rose from his throne and went into the inner apartments. The Pundit lost even the few grains of courage left in him. He was weighed down by anxiety; he tottered under the insult; he reached home and, placing the copy of the Geetha aside, he dropped on his bed. Surprised at this, the Pundit's wife asked, "Tell me why you came home from the palace today in such grief? What exactly did happen?" She rained one anxious question after another so that the Pundit was obliged to describe to her all that had happened, the insults heaped on his head, the command with which the Maharaja sent him home, etc. The wife listened calmly to the account of what had happened and after pondering deeply over the incident, she said, "Yes; it is true. What the Maharaja said is right. The explanation you gave for the sloka is not the correct one. How could the Maharaja approve it? The fault is yours." At this, the Pundit rose in anger from the cot, like a cobra whose tail is trodden hard. "What do you know, you silly woman? Am I inferior in intelligence to you? Do you, who are engaged in the kitchen all the time, cooking and serving, claim to know more than I? Shut your mouth and quit my presence," he roared. But the lady stood her ground. She replied, "Lord! Why do you fly into such a rage at a statement of mere truth? Repeat the sloka once again to yourself and ponder over its meaning. You will then arrive at the right answer yourself." Thus by her soft words the wife brought calm into the mind of her husband. The Pundit started analysing the meaning of each individual word in the sloka. "Ananyaaschinthayantho maam", be began, deliberately and slowly, repeating aloud the various meanings. The wife intervened and said, "What use is it to learn and expound the meanings of words? Tell me what your intention was when you approached this Maharaja. What was the purpose?" At this, the Pundit got wild. "Should I not run this family, this home? How am I to meet the cost of food and drink, of clothes and things, for you and all the rest? It is for the sake of these that I went to him, of course; or else, what business have I with him?" he shouted. The wife then replied. "If you had only understood what lord Krishna has declared in this sloka, the urge to go to this Maharaja would not have arisen! If He is worshipped without any other thought, if one but surrenders to Him, if at all times the mind is fixed on him, then the Lord has declared in this sloka that He would provide everything for the devotee. You have not done these three; you approach the Maharaja, believing that he would provide everything! That is where you have gone against the meaning of the verse. That is the reason the Maharaja did not accept your explanation." Hearing this, that reputed scholar sat awhile, ruminating on her remarks. He realised his mistake. He did not proceed to the palace the next day. Instead, he got immersed in the worship of Krishna at home. When the king inquired why the Pundit had not appeared, courtiers said that he was staying at home and had not started out. The king sent a messenger, but the Pundit declined to move out. He said, "There is no need for me to go to any one; my Krishna will provide me with everything; He will bear my Yogakshema Himself. I suffered insult because I did not realise this so long, being blinded by eagerness to know the manifold meanings of mere words. Surrendering to Him, if I am ceaselessly engaged in worshipping Him, He will Himself provide me with all I need." When the messenger took this message to the palace, the Maharaja proceeded to the dwelling of the Pundit on foot; he fell at the feet of the Pundit, saying "I thank you sincerely for explaining to me this day, out of your own experience, the meaning of the sloka which you expounded yesterday." Thus, the king taught the Pundit that any propagation of spiritual matters which does not come out of the crucible of experience is mere glitter and show. --------- >From the above story, it is clear that 'an ounce of practice / experience is greater than tonnes of knowledge'. Many posts cud be written on Gita, Upanishads, Tantra etc , containing fanciful words like 'karma, vasana, samskara, sankalpa' etc. But what use is all this knowledge if one cannot follow even simple things like : 1. Do not hurt the other peson's feelings 2. Speak sweet words 3. Try to help others whenever possible etc..... Hence, I would like to say, "What is needed to write is NOT eloquence, BUT humility and compassion." Ramana Maharshi used to say, " More knowledge is more burden." Knowledge in many cases (though not all) is directly proportional to arrogance and pride. Therefore ,what is important is NOT how simple or complicated the substance is, BUT if it is said with love in the heart or not. So, let us all fill our hearts with love and compassion, join our hands, and shed light on each other. :-) Hari Aum !!! , "tatwamasi" <tatwamasi> wrote: > > I have always hesitated to post anything in this club because all > > postings are so well written from so learned people.whenever I > > attempted to post anything, I worked on it as if it were for my > > school examinations > > Hi Angelina! > > Welcome and thank you for joining in the discusion. You are right. We > are blessed with some wonderful, eloquent writers with a beautiful > command of the langage. However our club is for all. Sadhna has > little to do with eloquence, it has to do with practice and > experience. And that can be expressed in the simplest of language. > > I want to bring this to the notice of all, because this is a > complaint I hear very often by many of our members. Perhaps I > haven't been able to do a good job in reassuring our members that all > posts are welcome and pllllease don't worry about writing abilities. > This is not a essay contest. All that is needed is a simple > expression of ideas, knowledge and experience. > > I can only keep repeating that and hope that other members also > understand and join in the discussions. > > _/\_ Tat twam asi > > Uma > > ******************************************** > This is reply to Post #3393 by de_spell_2000 > ******************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Jaya Sri Radhey! Namaste all. The same 'sloka' from 'Gita' reminds me another beautiful experience of Sri Yamuna Acarya of Sri Vaishnava Sampradaya. Long, long time ago, when Sri Yamunacharya was writing the commentary on Gita, he came to the verse - " ananyAzcintayanto mAM ye janAH paryupAsate, teSAM nityAbhi yuktAnAM yoga kSemaM vahAmyaham" (Gita 9.22) Poverty stricken acarya and his wife were starving with no food for many days and their life was getting harder to continue in that misery. When he read the 'verse'(9.22) he could not believe Lord Krishna would "personally" carry out the wishes of His sincere devotee and fulfil his material as well as spiritual needs. So Yamunacarya had 'stricken off' the word in the last line of the verse i.e. 'vahamyaham' and gone to take bath and contemplated while bathing what should be written instead of 'vahamyaham'. Yamunacarya being an exalted devotee of Lord Krishna, Lord came to prove what He had promised in the SAME verse that He was "ever ready to take care of ALL the needs of His devotee", if only, if only he had EXCLUSIVE faith in Him and COMPLETELY depended upon the Lord ALONE, according to the word 'ananyata' in this verse of Gita. As the powerful PROMISE given by Him in the very important verse was 'stricken off' from Gita (Lord's Word and Lord being NON- different), Lord's head had sustained injuries and was bleeding. Still He brought so much food stuff to Yamunacarya's house carrying on HIS OWN shoulders. The Acarya's wife asked for the reason why such a nice BEAUTIFUL Boy was beaten up. Lord said it was her own husband who injured Him for the 'delay' as He was on His way to bring the "necessary" food stuffs. Mataji felt very sorry for Him and immediately applied bandage to the wound and cooked some food to offer the kind, Handsome Boy. While she was preparing His meal, Lord went to the Gita commentary and CORRECTED the verse with His own hands keeping it as it was before Yamunacarya had stricken off. He took His meal and left. The acarya arrived after his bath feeling sad for DOUBTING the 'Word' of Lord Krishna. His wife explained about the Boy with the injuries and rebuked her husband for his cruelty towards such a tender, CARING, HUMBLE, affectionate Boy (Lord) WHO personally brought the food stuff carrying on His own back! The acarya hastily checked the verse he had stricken off. To his sweet surprise, he realized that Lord had REWRITTEN that verse with His own hands. Yamuna acarya was thrilled to know that his WIFE was more fortunate to receive the Lord personally and feed Him. He ran for the remnants of Mahaprasadam. The acarya now FULLY believed how POWERFUL was that verse in Gita where Lord Himself DECLARED His 'promise' to SINCERE Bhaktas. So do not let flowery eloquence or superficial, theoritical, knowledge of scriptures and various speculations discourage the sincere seekers (sadhakas) of Lord. Here is another explanation of the same IMPORTANT VERSE: "Lord Krishna makes His sublime promise, " ananyAzcintayanto mAM ye janAH paryupAsate, teSAM nityAbhi yuktAnAM yoga kSemaM vahAmyaham" (Gita 9.22) To those men who ADORE Me alone, THINKING of NO OTHER, who are earnestly and constantly engaged in uniting their minds to Me, I PROVIDE every gain and all security. This is a SUBLIME statement revealing the law of life at SPIRITUAL level. It is all right for the body-bound man to toil for food and clothing. But he WHO has COMPLETELY ATTUNED himself to the Divine loses caliber when he brings his mind down to the mundane level. The GRACE of Lord works in such a way that downfall does not takes place. In every respect, the Spirituality of the Spiritual man is promoted. It is ANANYA BHAKTI, when EXCLUSIVE SURRENDER, and love of spirit soul for the Supreme Soul takes away all limitations between the Two. The word 'yoga' in the context of this verse means the provision of the means required for the devotees' spiritual as well as bodily maintenance; and the word 'kshema' means the protection of what has been provided. According to this verse from Gita, the Supreme Lord becomes RESPONSIBLE for THE WELFARE AND LIBERATION OF THE SURRENDERED SOULS and showers His Divine Bliss upon one WHO SURRENDERS IN THE FORM OF SUCH Exclusiveness." "As long as a new born baby does nothing, the mother does every thing for the baby. When the child starts doing things on his own, the mother lessens her responsibilities to the same extent. When the child begins to do every thing, then the mother does nothing. This example is enough to explain WHAT EXCLUSIVE SURRENDER IS. AS LONG AS WE SUFFER FROM THE PRIDE OF DOING, WE WILL REMAIN IN THE BONDAGE OF ACTION, BECAUSE WE ARE DECLARED TO BE THE DOERS OF ACTIONS. WHEN WE CEASE TO FEEL THAT "I AM THE DOER" and SURRENDER, WE WILL BE CONSIDERED NON-DOERS. IT IS THEN LORD WILL TAKE COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY FOR US." 'When the devotee takes ONE stride towards the Lord, He takes TEN strides towards that devotee. Such is HIS GRACE.' -Sri Ramakrishna Jaya Sri Radhey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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