Guest guest Posted March 25, 2002 Report Share Posted March 25, 2002 Tks Erica, Tatwamasi and Nivedita for chosing dreams…. such a fascinating subject for discussion. Dreams are certainly an integral part of our life and as per men of science, the dreams are due to :- 1) Settling of mind's memory to arrange the emotions and their outcomes properly in different categories; or 2) to bring out our hidden desires and fulfil them at sub-conscious level Some also say that the dreams occur to tell us about our past lives/future lives or to warn us of any forthcoming calamity..or just to keep the mind busy in sleep. Well dream have always fascinated me and I can say that my treading on the path of sadhana and birth of this clubs called sadhana was due to dreams, will not be a false claim. I will say ," I believe that all the explanations of dreams are true and together they make an iota of the truth of dreams." We see dreams because our Anthakarna (innerself) goes to the astral/causal plane during sleep and as I wrote in one of my earlier posts, sleep is just like samadhi, the only and the biggest difference being the Guna bringing samadhi or sleep. In samadhi, we are over-powered by Sat-guna and we see visions and in sleep we are over powered by Tam-guna and we see dreams. It is also a fact that we visit the plane of Astral consciousness during the Samadhi and sleep…the only difference being the guna which is our guide on the astral plane. Lucid Dreaming is becoming very popular among the psychiatrists and they have found many fascinating facts about dreaming…not covered by science (but by our religion). What is lucid dreaming - A dream where you are seeing a dream but you are aware that you are watching a dream. There are different stages of Lucid dreams, but once when we start seeing Lucid dreams, we can safely say, we are treading into the path of Sadhna. Some people have inborn capabitlites of going into Lucid dreams without any sadhana, they observe Lucid dreams. I would say…it is due to their sadhana in the previous birth….but one thing is sure those who see Lucid dreams, are certainly higher souls than those who do not … notwithstanding the social status, brain development or sadhana. In a normal dream, our body numbs (and sleeps)…our faculties are out of our control…and Tamo guna taking over us..our Viveka (intelligence) loses power to distinguish/control the Vrittis (thought waves) and we helplessly see what our mind is doing with the thought-waves, or how it is reacting to them. But if we are on the path of sadhna…and have acquired some proficiency….Slowly Tamoguna is replaced by Satoguna..and our viveka remains with us even while dreaming. It is here when Lucid dreaming starts. We become master of dreams…we consciously react to a thought wave and work out on it. In Lucid dreaming we do not act like a mere Saakshi (spectator) or a slave…but like a master of our own dreams. In the first stages of Lucid dreaming, we only become aware that we are watching a dream. We do not have actual control over the happenings of the dream. We know we are afraid or happy over a situtation and we know that this is a temporary phase and soon we will wake up and this will go. This type of Lucid dreaming can be even without doing any sadhana (due to last birth sadhana)….but with continued sadhna we can shift our consciousness to second stage of Lucid dreaming…where we become the master of our dreams…where miracles happen!!! (To continue……..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2002 Report Share Posted March 26, 2002 (from prev.post) There are 100s of books available on dream interpretation and all of them are based upon one fact -hidden desires. The explanations given for dreams in those books, may be true for a common person but certainly not for those who are on the path of sadhna. I remember once i saw a horrible dream. I had just started my Om sadhna and was unaware of its purgatory effects. In a dream i saw myself all burnt and wounded and I was wandering on the streets. all the books I consulted, gave a negative effect of this dream. Incidental Pandit Ashok jee, head Priest of Gangotri temple, visited our house the next day. When he met me he asked what happened why I was so sad. I told him about the dream. His first question was If I am doing some beeja mantra japa. When i asked him the reason for asking this he said," Look dreams have a different meaning if one is on the path of serious sadhna...dreams have different meaning for a sadhaka and a different meaning for those who are not doing sadhna. This particular dream if seen by a non-sadhaka will mean a distressful future, some loses and bad news BUT for a sadhaka, it would mean, old bad karma being burnt...injury to the egoistical body and progress in Sadhna. And his theory was later confirmed by many higher souls whom i met and by my own experiences. Our inner-self, the sakshi present in us watches us one-pointedly and notes all our actions. When we are new on the path, HE sends us certain signals to guide us or warn us on the path. Since we have not yet developed our faculties to receive the signals directly, HE passes these signals to us through visions and dreams. If we are doing any sadhna, we should thus be very open to our dreams. We may get great hints for our sadhna through our dreams. The best way is to keep a note-book and pen handy near the bed, and in the morning, we should make a habit of writing details of any dream we remember. We should write the details of dream, its approximate duration and whether our sleep was disturbed by the dream or not. I have noticed that those dream which come as a signal from our Higher self...always disturb the sleep for some time. It may be due to great joy found in the dream or some shock we got...but we will be disturbed. Soon we will have a record of our dreams and we will be surprised to find how dreams are taking shape, as our sadhna progresses. There are some dreams which have clear signals/indications about our sadhna. Like those who are into shakti sadhna will soon see dreams of lion lionesses or cubs. If the lions are peaceful and are not attacking us...it would denote our shakti japa is going fine and Mother is happy with us...if they attack us it would denote there is some serious fault with our sadhna...mostly concerning purity of thoughts or wrong way of japa. Similarly dream of flying in the air is also seen by most of the sadhaka. For a common man it denotes loses and abortion of plans..but for a sadhaka it means..we are making progress. Dream of flying for a sadhaka occurs when our Tamo guna reduces and pranic body is a little free hence it wanders on the astral planes and we see dreams of flying. However, if we see flying low and seeing roads, buildings farms etc it may denote we are still attached to wordly things and some more Vairagya is required. Many sadhaka see snakes too in early days of sadhna. A snake for a sadhaka denotes bad thought waves. However, if we are doing japa of Shiva Mantra, seeing snakes is a good sign and denotes progress. If we see dreams in which we listen music of Mridungam, conch or sea waves...it is a sure sign of progress. If we see a dream in which we are given some advice by some elderly man/woman...we must follow the advise carefully because it is our higher self which is trying to tell us something. Seeing ourselves Dead in dreams, is a great sign for a sadhaka. This normally denotes that a great leap has been achieved by a sadhaka and soon Universal system will provide us with the second stage of our sadhna. Visiting a temple/holy place by sadhaka denotes there is need of more faith (Shraddha) in his sadhna. Seeing toilets,excreta or any such dirty things by sadhaka means there are some bad vrittis still hiding which are hindering the path of sadhana. so if we start noting down our dreams and keeping an eye over the progress in sadhna, we will soon be able connect our dreams with our sadhna and our progress will be faster..when we start working on these subtle signs and change accordingly. Hari Aum , silentsoul_55 <no_reply> wrote: > Tks Erica, Tatwamasi and Nivedita for chosing dreams…. such a > fascinating subject for discussion. > > Dreams are certainly an integral part of our life and as per men of > science, the dreams are due to :- > > 1) Settling of mind's memory to arrange the emotions and their > outcomes properly in different categories; or > > 2) to bring out our hidden desires and fulfil them at sub-conscious > level > > Some also say that the dreams occur to tell us about our past > lives/future lives or to warn us of any forthcoming calamity..or just > to keep the mind busy in sleep. > > Well dream have always fascinated me and I can say that my > treading on the path of sadhana and birth of this clubs called > sadhana was due to dreams, will not be a false claim. I will say ," > I believe that all the explanations of dreams are true and together > they make an iota of the truth of dreams." > > We see dreams because our Anthakarna (innerself) goes to the > astral/causal plane during sleep and as I wrote in one of my earlier > posts, sleep is just like samadhi, the only and the biggest > difference being the Guna bringing samadhi or sleep. In samadhi, we > are over-powered by Sat-guna and we see visions and in sleep we are > over powered by Tam-guna and we see dreams. It is also a fact that > we visit the plane of Astral consciousness during the Samadhi and > sleep…the only difference being the guna which is our guide on the > astral plane. > > Lucid Dreaming is becoming very popular among the psychiatrists and > they have found many fascinating facts about dreaming…not covered by > science (but by our religion). > > What is lucid dreaming - A dream where you are seeing a dream but you > are aware that you are watching a dream. There are different stages > of Lucid dreams, but once when we start seeing Lucid dreams, we can > safely say, we are treading into the path of Sadhna. Some people > have inborn capabitlites of going into Lucid dreams without any > sadhana, they observe Lucid dreams. I would say…it is due to their > sadhana in the previous birth….but one thing is sure those who see > Lucid dreams, are certainly higher souls than those who do not … > notwithstanding the social status, brain development or sadhana. > > In a normal dream, our body numbs (and sleeps)…our faculties are > out of our control…and Tamo guna taking over us..our Viveka > (intelligence) loses power to distinguish/control the Vrittis > (thought waves) and we helplessly see what our mind is doing with the > thought-waves, or how it is reacting to them. But if we are on the > path of sadhna…and have acquired some proficiency….Slowly Tamoguna is > replaced by Satoguna..and our viveka remains with us even while > dreaming. It is here when Lucid dreaming starts. We become master > of dreams…we consciously react to a thought wave and work out on it. > In Lucid dreaming we do not act like a mere Saakshi (spectator) or a > slave…but like a master of our own dreams. > > In the first stages of Lucid dreaming, we only become aware that we > are watching a dream. We do not have actual control over the > happenings of the dream. We know we are afraid or happy over a > situtation and we know that this is a temporary phase and soon we > will wake up and this will go. This type of Lucid dreaming can be > even without doing any sadhana (due to last birth sadhana)….but with > continued sadhna we can shift our consciousness to second stage of > Lucid dreaming…where we become the master of our dreams…where > miracles happen!!! > > (To continue……..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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