Maya

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OM Sankarrukku

 

When I post from my own experience, you and your cronies ask

for scriptural/guru references. When I post with references, you

and your cronies ask for personal experience.

 

Please make up your minds.

 

Apparently you believe that the best defense is a good offense.

But why do you feel defensive in the first place?

 

If what you post is authentic, there is no disagreement. But your

posts contain errors and invective. The errors I explain. The

invective merely makes you lose credibility.

 

I will continue to address the errors. Why is it that you cannot

accept an explanation of your errors?

 

If your aim is to set yourself up as a pundit, then perhaps you

should join the other fake gurus that have tried and failed to rally

disciples in this club and set up your own club.

 

Your anger speaks volumes about the depth of your practice,

experience and knowledge.

 

Om namah Sivaya

 

Omprem

 

 

 

, sankarrukku <no_reply> wrote:

>

> To all the members

>

> Some of you seem to feel disturbed that their messages have

been used

> in my ongoing discussion with Omprem. I would like to assure

them

> that they are in no way responsible for what is happening. It

was

> brewing for sometime now. In fact it started the day I posted my

> first message. So have a ringside seat and watch. Please

scroll down

> before deleting. I have a story and a message for you at the

end.

>

> Sri Omprem

>

> You cannot drive me away. So it does not matter what you are

> interested in.

> If posting quotations from Swami Sivananda & Swami

Vishnudevananda is

> experience you have it in plenty. Straight lifts from books and

cut &

> paste messages do not make you experienced. You do not

decide or

> advise what I should post.

>

> About the tone of my messages you agree that at least

sometimes my

> tone is to quote your own words "unctuous, fawning,

obsequious,

> almost servile."

>

> But the tone of all your messages without exception is

> one of "condescension, haughtiness and pomposity or

> hostile, rude and dismissive."

>

> You think you have become a great pundit by posting the

quotations of

> Swami Sivananda and bragging about your Gurus.

>

> When I came on the scene and started posting messages

which at least

> to some extent reflected my experience you were afraid of

losing your

> self styled position of Pundit in both SEM and Sadhnaa clubs.

Instead

> of posting your own messages based on your experience, you

had to

> pick out holes in my messages. Except for straight lifts from

books

> have you ever posted any messages based on your

experience?

>

> I know that this is something which you have doing for a long

time

> so that anyone who posts an original message faces hostility,

> rudeness from you. This way you drive out or silence the

members whom

> you feel are likely to challenge your self- styled position. Only

the

> founders of the club are exempted from this treatment as they

have

> the power to remove or ban you.

>

> You are talking about fear, because you are afraid. The clubs

are not

> your Yoga school and the members are not your students.

Members keep

> quiet because of politeness. This you believe is Fear.

>

> Look into your heart. What are you afraid of? You have

knowledge and

> experience of Hatha Yoga and many other subjects. You have

had

> excellent Gurus. You have contributed and should contribute to

the

> club. You do not like my messages. Delete them. Do not read

them. But

> I do think we agree about most of the subjects. I do not think

either

> myself or any other member is challenging your position. Do

not fight

> Windmills.

> Conquer Fear.

>

> There are many members who consider you as their Guru.

Your messages

> have benefited many. Change your attitude and you will find

more

> acceptance.

>

> You always like to have the last word. So go ahead.

>

> P.S

>

> Our messages reflect badly on both our spiritual progress and

our

> Ego. I believe we have become the laughing stock of all the

clubs.

>

> To all the members

>

> I think we could have increased our membership by having a

popup

> window with

> " See the Big Fight between Sankarrukku and Omprem today.

Third round

> today. See message numbers... for first and second rounds. "

You must

> be really laughing your hearts out that two people who write

about

> Elimination of Ego have so much Ego. You know the joke

about a fight

> between two persons. Two persons were abusing each other.

A third

> person who was witness to this said " now that we all know

who you

> are, how about carrying on with other matters"

>

> You must have heard the parable about two Sannyasins.

>

> There were two Sannyasins living in adjacent huts. These

were real

> renunciates who had renounced everything in life and spent

their

> entire time in meditating. One morning they were seen fighting

each

> other. When asked it turned out that the fight was about the

place to

> spread their prayer mat. Since both of them wanted the same

place

> there was a fight.

>

> So Folks. That is life.

>

> May be the club phase of my life is slowly drawing to a

close.

>

> Sankar