Chosen by the Divine

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Dear Frieds, We take false egos to overtake us and think "I am a

Sadhak" or "I belive in so and so" The reality, as told my Sri Maa of

Aurobindo Ashram , Pondichery India is, "All who choose the Divine

has already been choosen by the Divinity...."

Love

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, celestial_saraswati <no_reply> wrote:

> Dear Satish,

>

> Yes, it is very probable that Meher Baba was behind all of this,

> including your telling me the various addresses of the Meher Baba

> Centers here in the U.S.

>

> I remember reading material to the effect that great

souls/illumined

> beings (or whatever you wish to call/label them) oftentimes *DO*

> retain their personalities and carry out/forth various specific

> missions or functions. Such as the promises of Shirdi Sai Baba,

who

> promised to help any one who surrendered to him, etc. The way I

look

> at all of this is that it is ALL THE DIVINE or ALL GOD..as Sri

> Karunamayi has said, "all true Gurus are One." That is how I see

it.

>

> In the past I believe I was familiar with the name Meher Baba, but

I

> really didn't know that much about him. Now in ordering a BIG

order

> from the center, I will certainly be learning MUCH about him.

>

> When one takes initiation into a sufi order, s/he receives 'baraka'

> (blessings of all illumined saints, beings)--for the way I see it

is

> all one big circuit of Divinity!

>

> So many thanks to you and to Meher Baba, of course.

>

> Peace,

>

> Kathy

>

> @}-->---

>

> , safar_x <no_reply> wrote:

> > Dear real fortunate Kathy, It is one of the universally acclaimed

> > magazine about Baba.

> > Love

> > Satish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , celestial_saraswati <no_reply> wrote:

> > > Dear Satish,

> > >

> > > Just want you to know that I received a really nice catalog and

> > > sample copy of "Love Street Lamp Post" magazine from the Avatar

> > Meher

> > > Baba Center of Southern California, l2l4 So. VanNess Ave., Los

> > > Angeles, CA 900l9-3520 and I felt inspired to order a number

of

> > > books and items from this center.

> > >

> > > Although in the past I had *heard* of Meher Baba, I really

didn't

> > > know much about him. So this catalog and magazine gave me

> pictures

> > > of him and also the information that he was awakened to his

> Godhood

> > > through a kiss from lady sufi master Hazrat Babajan. I also

> found

> > > out that he spent many many many years in Silence and not

> speaking

> > > any words.

> > >

> > > I wonder if the word "avatar" was used by him as per his

> upbringing

> > > (Persian?). I noticed in reading more the other day in the

> website

> > > of Karunamayi (www.karunamayi.org), the section

entitled "Latest

> > > News", one of the devotees referring to Karunamayi as an

avatar,

> if

> > I

> > > read her account correctly (it is about her personal experience

> > with

> > > Karunamayi as she went to see Her along with a friend). I

could

> > > relate to a LOT of what she said and how she felt (she

mentioned

> > she

> > > felt like it must have been to be seeing Jesus during the time

He

> > > lived).

> > >

> > > I recommend that account (I think it is titled something

like "a

> > > spiritually uplifting experience" as well as THE POWER OF

WOMEN,

> a

> > > discourse by Sri Karunamayi that is also contained on there.

> > >

> > > Many thanks and blessings,

> > >

> > > Kathy

> > >

> > > Here is a quote by Meher Baba:

> > >

> > > "To love God as He ought to be loved, you must live for God and

> die

> > > for God, knowing that the goal of all life is to love God, and

> find

> > > Him as your own Self." --Meher Baba

> > > -- In , safar_x <no_reply> wrote:

> > > > Dear Saadhks,

> > > > A few days ago I dared to post a few msgs, sayings about

> Meher

> > > > Baba. Then it ensued a discussion about Avatar and about

> > > male/female

> > > > bodies. When our beloved Sankara left us,I gave a final post

in

> > > which

> > > > the superficiality of sexes of gross body was pointed out and

I

> > > > declared that I shall not post anything about Meher Baba

untill

> > > asked

> > > > for. In an other group I mentioned about Meher Baba and

posted

> > His

> > > > Universal Message (The same has been posted in this group

too).

> > > There

> > > > I was commanded to illucidate over two points, 1.Who is Meher

> > Baba

> > > > 2.How I come to beleive He is the Avatar of the age.

Obiedently

> I

> > > > posted my reply in two parts. Due to my own attachment to

this

> > > group

> > > > and to a few of its members, I am posting my full

> > narrative,defying

> > > > my resolution for not to post about Him. Any one who really

> reads

> > > it

> > > > may kindly excuse me for breaking of my promise. the msgs is

> > long,

> > > > and goes as follows:-

> > > > "Who is Meher Baba"

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends

> > > > You demanded me to tell two things about Meher Baba.

One, who

> > > > is he? and second, how I got a conviction about him being the

> > same

> > > > Ancient One?

> > > > In attempt to answer the question as to "Who is Meher

Baba",

> > > > I have recently posted a long HIGHEST OF THE HIGH massage. I

> > > presume

> > > > that by now you might have visited the sited I pointed, read

> the

> > > > Highest of High msg. As regards Meher Baba's biography

(though

> He

> > > > kept reminding, ("I am not this body") the salient features

are

> > as

> > > > follows

> > > > 1 Name-----Meher Shahariyar Irani (1985-1969)., born in

Pune

> > > > (Maharastra-India);

> > > > 2 Five Perfect Masters who lived at that period had

recognized

> > > > him to be an Avatar (God-Incarnate, like Christ, Zoroaster,

> > Budha,

> > > > Muhammad)

> > > > 3 He started observing Silence from 1925 and did not

break it

> > > > till he dropped his body in 1969

> > > > 4 He dictated (either by hand gestures or through an

alphabet

> > > > board) a few books, "God Speaks" being a landmark to the

> > > philosophers

> > > > and thinkers of his age.

> > > > 5 He started many schools for boys/girls, fed poor,

traveled

> > > > about 70,000 kilometers contacting about 30.00 Masts (God-

> > Conscious

> > > > Souls, who are generally unaware of their physical

> consciousness

> > > and

> > > > considered insane/mad)

> > > > 6 He established retreats for lepers, washed them, fed

them

> > > > with his own hands.

> > > > 7 He established many spiritual centers.

> > > > 8 He dissolved/ defunct all institutions, not allowed

any

> > > > single temple/shrine to be established in future except his

> grave

> > > > (Samadhi) and the land attached to it. However, compassionate

> > > > yielding to his disciples (whom he liked to call as "lovers")

> > love

> > > he

> > > > did allow the centers, which were established by then (in

> India,

> > > > America and Australia) to be kept as such.

> > > > 9 To sum up, his whole life was transparent, noble and

humane

> > > > without a speck or stigma. As ordinary human being he set

> > standards

> > > > of high moral, material detachment love and compassion.

> > > > I think this much preliminary information is sufficient. You

> can

> > > find

> > > > more about him over those sites I mentioned.

> > > > Now the second part "How I got a conviction about him being

> the

> > > same

> > > > Ancient One?" it is interesting to note that I did not see

him

> > > > physically, nor had any information about him till 1999. I

was

> > born

> > > > in a orthodox Hindu family. My father was a lawyer. As a

boy,

> I

> > > was

> > > > extrovert fun loving kid loved by all because I had a good

> > singing

> > > > voice. By virtue of my sweet voice, I was very often called

> upon

> > to

> > > > recite scared prayers, hymns, Mantras, Geeta Slokas. Since I

> had

> > my

> > > > primary and school education in Christian convents, both

> Catholic

> > > and

> > > > Church of England sponsored institution, my singing and

> > > > extracurricular activities flowed freely in carol singing and

> > other

> > > > festivities of Christmas. Though I did not understand the

> > esoteric

> > > > meaning of these things, yet I felt happy to do it. Later it

> > became

> > > a

> > > > daily ritual for me.

> > > > First feeling of divine taking care of me dawned in 1984.

> > > > First feeling of divine taking care of myself dawned upon me

in

> > > 1984.

> > > > I was fond of books and used to sit long hours in libraries

> > reading

> > > > anything and everything what attracted me. I still remember

the

> > > face

> > > > of the old man, the librarian, who one day forcibly produced

me

> > > > before a very well known scholar who was present there by

> chance

> > > (To

> > > > take care of the Ph.D/M.Phill/D.Lit students under his

> guidance).

> > > > Producing me before the Professor, the librarian said, "

Doctor

> > BS,

> > > > this young man is a voracious reader; but does not stick to

any

> > > > single discipline of study. I f he goes on only reading and

> > reading

> > > > aimlessly I fear he would get lost in the ocean of theories

and

> > > might

> > > > even go insane. Kindly talk to him and guide him."

> > > > I was taken aback seeing Dr. BSU. I had known his name, had

> read

> > > his

> > > > books. He was internationally acclaimed authority on Kalidasa

> (a

> > > > Sanskrit poet who lived around 2 B.C), a visiting professor

in

> > > Oxford

> > > > University. For Indology. He had just finished his term as

Vice-

> > > > Chancellor in an Indian University, and was appointed Indian

> High

> > > > Commissioner to Maurisus. Thus he was keen to see that the

> > students

> > > > under him finish their work.

> > > > To tell you truth, I felt so tiny before the old professor

that

> I

> > > > could not speak anything. While the old librarian had gone

> > leaving

> > > us

> > > > alone, the professor gently started the conversation by

firing

> > > > question like, "What is your name young friend? What do you

do

> > for

> > > a

> > > > living? What subjects you like? What are you reading at

> present?"

> > > > etc. I answered to all. When he learnt that I am a Science

> > Student,

> > > a

> > > > post Graduate, yet I read humanities, economics, history, and

> > > > linguistics and was presently reading to prepare an article

> > on "The

> > > > Ancient Indian Culture In The Province Of Gutam Budha

> > > > I told the professor about what I read ("The Ancient Indian

> > Culture

> > > > In The Province Of Gutam Budha"). Then he asked me to prepare

> for

> > a

> > > > Ph.D. thesis for the award of degree to me. I told him that

> since

> > I

> > > > had been through out my career a student of science and never

> had

> > > > history as my subject, I could possibly be found not legible

to

> > > > submit a thesis for Ph.D. After this the professor began

> evaluate

> > > the

> > > > dept of my knowledge of history. At least he happily told me

> that

> > I

> > > > could be enrolled as a Ph.D. scholar on the basis of his

> > > > recommendations. I was amazed. For I knew that in academic

> field

> > > the

> > > > universities honor the recommendation of a world-class

> authority

> > on

> > > > the subject So, I got an aim for reading. Same day while

> > reflecting

> > > > about my past I discovered two yet amazing incidences of my

> past.

> > I

> > > > shall try to draw a pictorial narration so that appropriate

> > affects

> > > > on my psyche are evaluated.

> > > > First; I had to join new class. My age was barely 12.The new

> > class

> > > > was preparatory to High School (we call it 9th stander here).

> My

> > > > friends and myself were excited. There were only 3 options

with

> > us,

> > > > viz. choose either group A (arts, humanities), or C

(commerce),

> > or

> > > S

> > > > (science). I was eligible to choose any one of them. We were

> > > sitting

> > > > under a Mango tree chatting the pros and cons. I told my

> friends

> > > that

> > > > I would join S, because it is the only subject which require

a

> > > > laboratory to study the subject. This laboratory facility was

> > only

> > > > available while we are in school. Other subjects don't need a

> Lab

> > > to

> > > > study them. I shall study science in my student career and

> other

> > > > subjects at my leisure in life later. This resolution came

> > > > spontaneously to my mind. I had often tried to know as to why

> > this

> > > > occurred to me but always found the Will of Divine behind

this.

> > > > Second; after completion of my studies when I was serving the

> > > > Government and had access to rich libraries One day sitting

> > relaxed

> > > > under a Mango tree, I resolved for studying methodically the

> > > subjects

> > > > one by one. I gave myself one year for each subject.

Literature

> > and

> > > > Linguistic was the first, Economics second, then Geography,

> > > > Philosophy, Astronomy chronologically, History being the last

> > one.

> > > > When I met the professor BSU, it was my last phase of

personal

> > > > studies curriculum. I had always been a mediocre student; how

> > could

> > > I

> > > > complete all this, along with discharging my official duties?

> > Here

> > > > again I could only for think of the Grace Divine.

> > > > Thus my first feeling of divine taking care of me dawned in

> 1984.

> > > > My personal pursuit for spirituality was going on, though

> > > > mechanically yet consciously. Since childhood I had special

> > > > inclination to Lord Shiva, later Mother Goddess Durga became

my

> > > > object of daily routine meditation and prayers. I tried to

> > observe

> > > > every orthodox Puja (worship) and Path (chanting) with

> devotion.

> > > Even

> > > > then I did not call myself a spiritual seeker, but a worldly

> > > person.

> > > > I had studied Marks and Angel and was very careful to put all

> my

> > > > inner feelings and realizations under strict scrutiny and

tried

> > to

> > > > differentiate between paranormal phenomenons of

autosuggestion/

> > > > hallucinations and suprarenal/metaphysical experiences. Thus

> when

> > I

> > > > say that First feeling of divine taking care of me dawned in

> 1984

> > I

> > > > mean real Divinity. Things went on and so my daily orthodox

and

> > > > ritualistic practice of chanting/prayer. I, however, could

not

> > > > complete

> > > > His innocent good will comment pierced deep into my heart In

a

> > > flash

> > > > my doctorate thesis because Dr. BSU passed away soon after

the

> > > > synopsis got approved by university of Chandigarh (Punjab),

and

> > my

> > > > new guide refused to carry on with me for I did not have a

M.A.

> > > > (History) degree. Afterwards I did M.A. (History) from

Garhwal

> > > > University, but just for self-satisfaction.

> > > > Final surrender

> > > > In the year 1998, I first heard about Meher Baba from one of

my

> > > > friends who wanted me to lend him my backpack for his

> pilgrimage

> > to

> > > > Meherabad. I had neither heard of the Meher Baba or this

> strange

> > > > place Meherabad. Later same friend gave me some pamphlets and

> > other

> > > > details. By going through a cursory reading I thought no harm

> in

> > > > attending one or two functions commemorating Meher Baba's

visit

> > to

> > > > Lucknow in 1952 About Meher Baba, two aspects drew my

> attention.

> > > One

> > > > was his "Silence" and the other was his one and only message

> > > > to "Love" God. For me both "Love" and "Silence" had esoteric

> > > meaning.

> > > > I began try to understand them.

> > > > In the November 1999, I visited a remote village in the

> district

> > > > Hamirpur (UP-India) accompanying my same Baba lover friend.

> This

> > > > place, he informed me, was declared by Baba to be his heart.

> Thus

> > > > chance carried me to what is called Baba's Heart. No sooner I

> > > reached

> > > > this place, I knew that the place was of utmost historical

> > > importance

> > > > and needs thorough study, exploration and excavation. I said

to

> > > > myself, "O! This is a better topic for historical thesis than

> my

> > > > previous one"

> > > > Only after a few hours of my arrival there I was introduced

to

> an

> > > > elderly person (Dr.GSNM), who had seen, met and lived with

> Baba,

> > > and

> > > > was declared an esteemed orator and interpreter of Baba's

> > messages.

> > > > My question to him was "What is meant by Silence?" To this he

> > > replied

> > > > smilingly, "Even if you can't love Baba, live Baba"… the

words

> > > > stunned me. Till now I had been either trying to understand

the

> > > > phenomenal world or praying to havens (I know not what for).

> > > Dr.GSNM

> > > > kept on saying," I have written a book dealing with esoteric

> and

> > > > spiritual aspects of Silence… named….".

> > > > I was lost somewhere within myself. I became suddenly aware

> that

> > we

> > > > were sitting on the ground under a Mango tree once again. A

> mango

> > > > tree became a mental note for me. Why I am here? Why and how

> > could

> > > I

> > > > read various subjects finally culminating on History? Am I

here

> > at

> > > > this remote, yet archaeologically significant spot by chance?

> > > > An illuminative realization came to me. Nothing had happened

by

> > > > chance. Since my childhood I was being taken care of the

Divine

> > to

> > > be

> > > > instrumental for it's own mysterious purpose. I must now

> > > > start "Living" a life. Mere prayers to Shiva, Durga are not

> > enough.

> > > > They are just tools for being bestowed with the knowledge of

> > self;

> > > > and living it truthfully, honestly in the creation for the

> > creation

> > > > is the Grace answering the aspiration within.

> > > > Real tale of my final surrender to Meher Baba starts from

this

> > > point.

> > > > After my returned to home town, I found the book "The Wonders

> Of

> > > > Silence" by Dr.GSN. The explanation of Silence was given in

> > > reference

> > > > to Meher Baba's Silence. Every seeker knows its glory and

> > > importance,

> > > > therefore. There is nothing for me to explain it. In Geeta

> (ch.15-

> > > 1)

> > > > it is well said by Lord Krishna Himself "Amongst the secrets

I

> am

> > > the

> > > > Silence". The point worth mention is that I got an inner call

> to

> > > > translate the book in Hindi, so that it may be available to

> Hindi

> > > > speaking Baba lovers. During translating the book I clearly

> felt

> > > the

> > > > help and presence of the Divine. I don't wish to name them

> > > miracles,

> > > > yet they were from an ordinary standpoint. I feel happy and

it

> > does

> > > > not matter to me whether Meher Baba is an Avatar/God-Man or

> not.

> > If

> > > > Shiva is God, Durga is God, Lord Krishna, Lord R Rama is God

> and

> > > > if "The Divine is always seated in your heart, consciously

> living

> > > in

> > > > you"(Sri Aurobindo) is true, if "Look into depth of your

heart

> > and

> > > > you will see there the Divine Presence"(Emerson) is true then

> not

> > > > only Meher Baba, but each and every one of us is God.

> > > > We Indians often greet the others by Hailing (Jai) Ram. Now

to

> > me,

> > > it

> > > > is addressing Lord Ram dwelling in that person. Thus I hail

> Meher

> > > > Baba. God is not a "body" but an Entity, The Absolute, The

> > Ancient

> > > > One.

> > > > Since I recognize the human form was Meher Baba inductive to

my

> > > final

> > > > surrender I feel happy to say Jai Meher Baba to one and all.

> > > > With love,

> > > > In His Service

> > > > Satish