Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Dear All, A pamphlet containing the following was distributed at a mosque in Chicago: PROPHET MOHAMMED (PBUH) IN HINDUISM Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhyay, a Hindu professor, in his stunning book claims that the description of the "Avatar" found in the holy books of the Hindu religion, matches the Holy Prophet Mohammed (PUBH). Recently in India, a fact-revealing book has been published. The book has been the topic of discussion and gossip all over the country. Amazingly the author of this book, Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhyay, is a learned and famous Hindu professor. The book is Kalki Avatar. Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhyay is a Hindu Brahmin of Bengali origin. He is a research scholar at Allahabad University. After years of research, he published this book, and no less than eight pundits have endorsed and certified his points of argument as authentic. According to Hindu belief, the Hindu world awaits "the guide and leader", named Kalki Avatar. However, the description as given in the holy scriptures of the Hindu points only to the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) of Arabia. Therefore, the Hindus of the whole world should not wait any longer for the arrival of Kalki Avatar (the spirit) and should readily accept Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) as Kalki Avatar. These are the facts verified and supported by eight other eminent pundits. What the author says is that Hindus, who are still anxiously awaiting the arrival of Kalki Avatar, are simply subjecting themselves to never ending pain. Because, such a great messenger has already arrived and departed from this world fourteen centuries ago. The author produces the following sound evidences from the Vedas and other holy books of the Hindu religion in support of his claim: 1. In the Puranas (Hindu scriptures), it is stated that Kalki Avatar would be the last messenger of God in this world. He would be for guidance of the whole world and all human beings. 2. According to a Hindu religion prediction the birth of Kalki Avatar would take place in an isle, which again according to Hindu religion is Arab Region. 3. In books of Hindus, the names of the father and the mother of Kalki Avatar are given as VISHNUBHAGAT and SUMAANI respectively. If we examine the leaning of these names we shall come to some very interesting conclusion. VISHNU (meaning God) + BHAGAT (meaning Slave). Slave of God = ABDULLAH (in Arabic) is the name of Prophet's (PBUH) Father. SUMAANI (meaning peace or calmness). Aamenah (in Arabic means peace) is the name of Prophet's (PBUH) Mother. 4. In the religious books of Hindus, it is mentioned that the staple food of Kalki Avatar would be dates and olives and he would be the most honest and truthful person in the region. Without any doubt the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is acclaimed to possess these qualities. 5. It is stated in Vedas (holy book of Hindu Religion) that the birth of Kalki Avatar would take place in an honourable clan. This perfectly fits the Quraysh where Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) belonged to. 6. God would teach Kalki Avatar through His messenger (angel) in a cave. Allah taught Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) through His messenger Jibraeel (Gabriel) in a cave known as Ghaar-e-Hira. 7. God would provide Kalki Avatar with a very speedy horse to ride and travel the whole world and the seven skies. Indication of burraq (horse) and Me'raaj (the night when Prophet [PBUH] travelled the seven skies). 8. God would provide Kalki Avatar with divine help. This was particularly proved in the Battle of Uhud. 9. Another dazzling account given about Kalki Avatar was that he would be born on the 12th of a month. Whereas the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was born on the 12th of Rabbi ul Awwal (Hijra Calendar). 10. Kalki Avatar would be an excellent horse rider and a swordsman. The author here draws the attention of Hindus that the real days of horses and swords have gone and the present time of guns and missiles. So it would be foolish on the part of those who still expect Kalki Avatar, who should be an excellent rider and swordsman to come. In fact, the divine book, the Holy Qur'an, contains qualities and signs attributed to Kalki Avatar reflecting on the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). The author has given numerous arguments in favour of his claim that Kalki Avatar is in fact Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and those who still await the arrival of Kalki Avatar should not waste time Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 This question is addressed to the experts on hindu mythology and those who identify themselves as Vaishnavites. 1. I haven't been able to find a copy of the text Bhavishya Puran where certain references are made about one named Muhamad being a next avatar in the lineage of the Dasa Avatars of Vishnu. If any of your have a reference I would be grateful if you could post it here. There are so many interpretations and so many scholars who support each interpretation, that nothing so far can be considered to be conclusive. 2. I have seen references of Christ being an avatar too and I am not exactly sure in what context. (He certainly fits many of the criteria!) 3. Logically, if as is CLAIMED by this reference, Prophet Muhammad is considered an avatar of Vishnu, does that not imply the Master is a form of Vishnu and the followers are all Vaishnavites? Is that also accepted by the sources that are claiming the avatar fact? This topic is often either ignored, or presented with accusations, insinuations and other kinds of unpleasantness. In our club I'd like to encourage sharing of such appropriate information that can promote intelligent and respectful discussion. Thank you _/\_ Tat twam asi Uma post 4685 "adil_21007 wrote: > Dear All, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 Hello, Avatar Meher Baba has said that he came in other past periods as Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed, Jesus, Zoroaster, etc. From what I remember, the Avatar comes and lives and gives according to humanity's need at the time. For further information about this, there is a search website on Meher Baba, where you can look up specific words. For instance, the complete volumes of the LORD MEHER series is now available on a website with a "search": http:www.lordmeher.org/index/jsp Here is another website where one may find much information about Meher Baba/Avatar, etc: http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/erics/search.html I have been spending much time reading about the life of Avatar Meher Baba and his words: totally incredible. Much love to all, Kathy Note: here is Baba's l954 Special Message: "I am never born, I never die. Yet every moment I take birth and undergo death. The countless illusory births and deaths are necessary landmarks in the progression of Man's consciousness to Truth -- a prelude to the Real Death and Real Birth. The Real Death is when one dies to self; and the Real Birth is when dying to self one is born in God, to live forever His Eternal Life consciously. Although I am present everywhere eternally in My formless Infinite State, from time to time I take form and taking of the form and leaving it is termed My physicl birth and death. In this sense I was born sixty years ago and will die when My universal work is finished." , "adil_21007 <adil_21007>" <adil_21007> wrote: > Dear All, > > A pamphlet containing the following was distributed at a mosque in > Chicago: > > PROPHET MOHAMMED (PBUH) IN HINDUISM > > Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhyay, a Hindu professor, in his stunning book > claims that the description of the "Avatar" found in the holy books > of the Hindu religion, matches the Holy Prophet Mohammed (PUBH). > > Recently in India, a fact-revealing book has been published. The book > has been the topic of discussion and gossip all over the country. > > Amazingly the author of this book, Pundit Vedaprakash Upadhyay, is a > learned and famous Hindu professor. The book is Kalki Avatar. Pundit > Vedaprakash Upadhyay is a Hindu Brahmin of Bengali origin. He is a > research scholar at Allahabad University. After years of research, he > published this book, and no less than eight pundits have endorsed and > certified his points of argument as authentic. According to Hindu > belief, the Hindu world awaits "the guide and leader", named Kalki > Avatar. > However, the description as given in the holy scriptures of the Hindu > points only to the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) of Arabia. Therefore, the > Hindus of the whole world should not wait any longer for the arrival > of Kalki Avatar (the spirit) and should readily accept Prophet > Mohammed (PBUH) as Kalki Avatar. These are the facts verified and > supported by eight other eminent pundits. > > What the author says is that Hindus, who are still anxiously awaiting > the arrival of Kalki Avatar, are simply subjecting themselves to > never ending pain. Because, such a great messenger has already > arrived and departed from this world fourteen centuries ago. The > author produces the following sound evidences from the Vedas and > other holy books of the Hindu religion in support of his claim: > > 1. In the Puranas (Hindu scriptures), it is stated that Kalki Avatar > would be the last messenger of God in this world. He would be for > guidance of the whole world and all human beings. > > 2. According to a Hindu religion prediction the birth of Kalki Avatar > would take place in an isle, which again according to Hindu religion > is Arab Region. > > 3. In books of Hindus, the names of the father and the mother of > Kalki Avatar are given as VISHNUBHAGAT and SUMAANI respectively. If > we examine the leaning of these names we shall come to some very > interesting conclusion. > VISHNU (meaning God) + BHAGAT (meaning Slave). Slave of God = > ABDULLAH (in Arabic) is the name of Prophet's (PBUH) Father. SUMAANI > (meaning peace or calmness). Aamenah (in Arabic means peace) is the > name of Prophet's (PBUH) Mother. > > 4. In the religious books of Hindus, it is mentioned that the staple > food of Kalki Avatar would be dates and olives and he would be the > most honest and truthful person in the region. Without any doubt the > Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is acclaimed to possess these qualities. > > 5. It is stated in Vedas (holy book of Hindu Religion) that the birth > of Kalki Avatar would take place in an honourable clan. This > perfectly fits the Quraysh where Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) belonged to. > > 6. God would teach Kalki Avatar through His messenger (angel) in a > cave. Allah taught Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) through His messenger > Jibraeel (Gabriel) in a cave known as Ghaar-e-Hira. > > 7. God would provide Kalki Avatar with a very speedy horse to ride > and travel the whole world and the seven skies. Indication of burraq > (horse) and Me'raaj (the night when Prophet [PBUH] travelled the > seven skies). > > 8. God would provide Kalki Avatar with divine help. This was > particularly proved in the Battle of Uhud. > > 9. Another dazzling account given about Kalki Avatar was that he > would be born on the 12th of a month. Whereas the Prophet Mohammed > (PBUH) was born on the 12th of Rabbi ul Awwal (Hijra Calendar). > > 10. Kalki Avatar would be an excellent horse rider and a swordsman. > The author here draws the attention of Hindus that the real days of > horses and swords have gone and the present time of guns and > missiles. So it would be foolish on the part of those who still > expect Kalki Avatar, who should be an excellent rider and swordsman > to come. In fact, the divine book, the Holy Qur'an, contains > qualities and signs attributed to Kalki Avatar reflecting on the > Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). > > The author has given numerous arguments in favour of his claim that > Kalki Avatar is in fact Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and those who still > await the arrival of Kalki Avatar should not waste time Thanks. 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